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Housing market after Brexit

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  • The truth is, nobody knows.

    What we do know is the MoneySavingExpert Mantra...

    - Will you use it?
    - Is it worth it?
    - Have you checked prices elsewhere?

    ... if the answer is NO... DON'T BUY IT! :-D
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  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    The truth is, nobody knows.

    What we do know is the MoneySavingExpert Mantra...

    - Will you use it?
    - Is it worth it?
    - Have you checked prices elsewhere?

    ... if the answer is NO... DON'T BUY IT! :-D

    Except point 2) seems to go out the door here when it comes to property.

    https://moneyweek.com/510317/uk-house-prices-continue-their-long-slow-drift-lower/

    Hopefully people are waking up though......
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    So many or most of the EU 27 just won`t be fussed about not trading with the fifth largest economy in the world in your opinion? Excuse me if I don`t take your views entirely seriously.
    Whether they're "fussed" or not is beside the point.

    You are a business in an EU27 country.
    You buy widgets from a UK supplier now. Widgets have a 20% WTO tariff.
    Now - you pay 0% tariff. Post-No-Deal - you pay 20% tariff.
    Those widgets suddenly cost you 20% more if you buy from the UK supplier.
    Do you continue to buy from that UK supplier? Or do you source a supplier within another EU27 country?

    You are a business making widgets in the UK.
    All your EU27 customers start to have to pay 20% more.
    Your customers in countries with an EU 0% tariff trade deal start to have to pay 20% more, too.
    Do you open a factory in an EU27 country to meet demand?
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Whether they're "fussed" or not is beside the point.

    You are a business in an EU27 country.
    You buy widgets from a UK supplier now. Widgets have a 20% WTO tariff.
    Now - you pay 0% tariff. Post-No-Deal - you pay 20% tariff.
    Those widgets suddenly cost you 20% more if you buy from the UK supplier.
    Do you continue to buy from that UK supplier? Or do you source a supplier within another EU27 country?

    You are a business making widgets in the UK.
    All your EU27 customers start to have to pay 20% more.
    Your customers in countries with an EU 0% tariff trade deal start to have to pay 20% more, too.
    Do you open a factory in an EU27 country to meet demand?

    You are someone who bought a house in the 90`s and who hoped it was now worth about ten times more than you paid, do you drop the price now to sell or take a 40%+ hit later when all the widget makers go bust? Interesting times.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    ...and straight back to the monomania when it becomes obvious that he's been caught out talking guff on other subjects...
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    ...and straight back to the monomania when it becomes obvious that he's been caught out talking guff on other subjects...

    This article challenges a lot of the guff that someone might make up about widgets, but I would also welcome an outcome where bungalows bought in the 90`s for 80k dropped back to real value, that would be a result for society at large including widget makers on zero hours contracts.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/whos-afraid-of-the-wto/
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    You're expecting something other than borderline-Farragist propaganda from the Staggers...?
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    You're expecting something other than borderline-Farragist propaganda from the Staggers...?

    Let`s face it, the 20% on widgets just isn`t going to happen, you can admit that right?
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Let`s face it, the 20% on widgets just isn`t going to happen, you can admit that right?
    Yes, that's precisely what "no deal" means - WTO default tariffs. And they apply equally to EVERY country that there's no trade deal with. So the EU cannot choose to exempt post-brexit UK without a trade deal well under way, unless they drop those tariffs for ALL countries without trade deals. And, for many items, 20% would be a massive reduction.

    And, no, article 24 does not apply.

    https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/no-deal-brexit-and-wto-article-24-explained/
  • jimbog
    jimbog Posts: 2,283 Forumite
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    You are someone who bought a house in the 90`s and who hoped it was now worth about ten times more than you paid, do you drop the price now to sell or take a 40%+ hit later when all the widget makers go bust? Interesting times.

    Accepting a 40% hit now would mean still mean a x6 increase in value compared to someone who sold and went into rented in the 90's
    Gather ye rosebuds while ye may
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