Receiving a disciplinary for breaking up a cardboard box

Ellieseleven

Les79 wrote: »

Fair enough!

But I wasn't exclusively talking about the nasty comment (which does seem to be sexist) but more:

- A possible male-dominated workplace (though I'm guessing to be fair)

- The possibility that the area manager didn't spend hours trawling through the CCTV for male colleagues who have applied for said job.

Anyways, sounds like you've got a grip on things The only other thing I could suggest is making a Subject Access Request for various things such as:

- Internal emails/messages containing daughter's personal information (to try and understand the AM's rationale).

- A copy of the CCTV (to see whether it is farcical or not)

- A copy of the personnel file (to see if daughter has been naughty in the past)

- A copy of the employee handbook and the employee contract (to see where breaking a box aggressively fits in with that)

It's not a male dominated environment and the AM is a woman. I don't think the AM trawled through CCTV footage for anyone else, it was purely as a way to stop my daughter from being considered for interview, The AM has said as much to another of my daughter's colleagues.

The union did advise my daughter to make a Subject Access Request to include her personnel file which she has done (another reason why I do believe what she is saying).

She has also requested a copy of the employee handbook and this does not mention the breaking up of boxes.

Thank you for your advice, it is much appreciated.

Gavin83

Ellieseleven wrote: »

It's not a male dominated environment and the AM is a woman. I don't think the AM trawled through CCTV footage for anyone else, it was purely as a way to stop my daughter from being considered for interview, The AM has said as much to another of my daughter's colleagues.

But this doesn't make sense. She doesn't need to trawl thought CCTV to deny her an interview. Assuming there's no policy against it (there isn't in most private companies) they can interview who they want, or not even offer interviews at all and just appoint someone. It would have been much easier for this area manager to deny her an interview because she didn't feel she was right for the job.

In your daughters shoes I'd be looking for another job. It's unlikely much, if anything will be done but if she's considering leaving anyway it's worth complaining.

Matty36

RIP Cardboard box

ACG

Maybe the box prefers to be thought of a human being?

Maybe ask on the complaint letter to HR or the managers boss, if your daughter can work for someone who is not a snowflake. If you are going to have a disciplinary, at least make it a decent one.

On a serious note, I would put on the letter than you would like to raise a grievance about the manager as they are harming your promotion prospects within a company you are in the main proud/happy to work for and the manager you feel is abusing their position and that you would like your promotion request to still be allowed to go in and/or be moved to work under a different manager.

cmthephoenix

Ellieseleven wrote: »

She did ask and was told it was intimidating to the cardboard box

OK this is a fake post right? Unless her manger is said cardboard box then there can be no intimidation.

prowla

Jakg wrote: »

Demand a trial by combat with the complainant.

Maybe a boxing match!

MovingForwards

Your daughter needs to keep a diary detailing comments, dates and times. This can then be presented to HR.

Hopefully she will find a different company to work for before she is completely drained and loses what confidence she has.

eamon

Just in case this happens to be serious thread. If its a unionised workplace the get the rep to help with the grievance before it is submitted.


Some words of caution though. HR work for management, one of their roles is to protect management. By that I mean they will close ranks. Witnesses may not be prepared to sign their name to anything. Be prepared to loose the grievance, very few are upheld.

Ellieseleven

Gavin83 wrote: »

But this doesn't make sense. She doesn't need to trawl thought CCTV to deny her an interview. Assuming there's no policy against it (there isn't in most private companies) they can interview who they want, or not even offer interviews at all and just appoint someone. It would have been much easier for this area manager to deny her an interview because she didn't feel she was right for the job.

In your daughters shoes I'd be looking for another job. It's unlikely much, if anything will be done but if she's considering leaving anyway it's worth complaining.

You're right it doesn't make any sense. The only conclusion we can come to is the supervisor role was advertised multiple times and my daughter applied for it multiple times and was ignored. The AM came up with the cardboard box incident to prevent my daughter from keep applying.

She is looking for another job but wants to highlight some of the under-hand tricks used by this AM (not only to my daughter but other members of staff as well) and is preparing a grievance

Ellieseleven

cmthephoenix wrote: »

OK this is a fake post right? Unless her manger is said cardboard box then there can be no intimidation.

I can assure it is not fake - we think it's laughable if it were not so serious