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Do I still need planning permission for dropped kerb?

Hi everyone,

I lived near Kingston, London and we are considering converting our front garden to a hard surface parking.

We shared a driveway with our neighbour and the driveway already has a dropped kerb. (see picture attached) when we purchased the house.

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The red line indicates the mid point of the shared driveway, our property is on the left.

My question is whether we need to extend the dropped further to our side (towards left)? I wasn't entirely sure if the existing dropped kerb 'belongs' to our neighbour on the right?

Anyone had any idea, or can point me to the right direction for information is appreciated! Thank you

(I tried emailing the council but they can only refer me to their guidelines on the web portal, which doesn't answer such specific questions. )

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  • foxy-stoat
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    You will struggle to park a car in there if you dont extend the dropped kerb and knock out the wall. I would direct your requests to the your local highways department as they will be the ones you need to get permission from.

    You need to have the hard standing in place before you apply for the extended drop kerb if your plan is to remove the wall as well.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    The drop kerb doesn't "belong" to anybody. Well, except the council, because it's their pavement.

    It does look as if you're going to need to extend it, though, to access a wider gateway on your side.

    The council's information certainly does give you all the information you need.
    https://www.kingston.gov.uk/info/200155/planning_applications_and_permissions/490/dropped_kerbs_vehicle_crossings_and_driveways
  • Newway
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    foxy-stoat wrote: »
    You will struggle to park a car in there if you dont extend the dropped kerb and knock out the wall. I would direct your requests to the your local highways department as they will be the ones you need to get permission from.

    You need to have the hard standing in place before you apply for the extended drop kerb if your plan is to remove the wall as well.

    Thanks,
    yes I knew I will need to knock down the wall and pave the garden.
    It was the dropped kerb I wasn't sure. and from the councils info I need to apply permit for a droppes kerb first before doing the work.
  • Newway
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    The drop kerb doesn't "belong" to anybody. Well, except the council, because it's their pavement.

    It does look as if you're going to need to extend it, though, to access a wider gateway on your side.

    The council's information certainly does give you all the information you need.
    https://www.kingston.gov.uk/info/200155/planning_applications_and_permissions/490/dropped_kerbs_vehicle_crossings_and_driveways

    Thanks AdrainC, Yes I have read the guide, it tells me when you need a planning permission (to apply for a dropped kerb, and if your driveway does not meet certain regulations etc), but my questions is about the specifics of the dropped kerb itself, since it looks like I already had one and one of the neighbours who also had a shared driveway with the same kind of kerb works for them(see picture):
    https://photos.google.com/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipPx0GQWkp1awrn0JpbqkV13WEEzGk_MRH21NFxA
  • zagubov
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    I'd do it sooner rather than later.

    We bought a house where the neighbours had hardstandings and dropped kerbs but we weren't allowed it because the council then brought in new regulations about minimum distances between the pavement and the house front.
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  • Slithery
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    zagubov wrote: »
    I'd do it sooner rather than later.

    We bought a house where the neighbours had hardstandings and dropped kerbs but we weren't allowed it because the council then brought in new regulations about minimum distances between the pavement and the house front.

    Yep. Regulations change all the time.

    Don't assume that because next-door has a dropped kerb that your council will let you have one.
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