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hospital ADR

If a hospital is operating its own car parking regime, and not through an ATA.



then can some one please point me to any info regarding DVLA access without ADR scheme.


thanks


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  • Ralph-y
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    it may well be , but sadly I could not see this ...


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  • The_Deep
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    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Ralph-y
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    I have multiple docs/pages open including the one you linked to ...


    quote from your linked page / doc



    "Private car parking management companies that give out parking tickets or trespass charge notices can only request information from DVLA if they’re members of the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community."


    so when does a hospital trust become a 'Private car parking management company' ?


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  • nigelbb
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    edited 25 June 2019 at 2:29PM
    Ralph-y wrote: »
    so when does a hospital trust become a 'Private car parking management company' ?
    When it manages parking using contract law & "fines" then for breaching T&Cs of parking.

    Some Trusts who manage their own parking are members of the BPA AOS e.g. Airedale NHS Trust but other are not. AFAIK no NHS Trust is a member of the IPC AOS.

    If the landowner claims trespass then purchasing RK details is legitimate without being a member of the BPA AOS.
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    edited 25 June 2019 at 4:54PM
    According to the ADR for Consumer Disputes Regulations 2015, anyone with a dispute against a business, including motorists, should have access to ADR for up to a twelve month.
    As per the OP's question, I don't know how a landowner claiming trespass can offer ADR. I don't know if it applies to trespass because it may not be contract law.
    Trespass would imply that the alleged offender is not a customer because they should not be there.
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  • Ralph-y
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    this trust is only using breach of contract ,



    this started out as a simple question to them ... some of the stuff back is incredible!



    I would like it to play out a bit ... they lost my first FOI , after a month or so of questions.



    I will post up better details soon ......
    its what I write after the FOI is answered.



    "According to the ADR for Consumer Disputes Regulations 2015, anyone with a dispute against a business, including motorists, should have access to ADR for up to a twelve month."


    they are stating that they do not have to offer ADR after the first appeal ...




    "When it manages parking using contract law & "fines" then for breaching T&Cs of parking."


    I would agree...


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  • Redx
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    the main ones we see on here are at Aintree and use Trethowans, so search for those as there is a lot of background info on them
  • Johno100
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    Fruitcake wrote: »
    According to the ADR for Consumer Disputes Regulations 2015, anyone with a dispute against a business, including motorists, should have access to ADR for up to a twelve month.
    As per the OP's question, I don't know how a landowner claiming trespass can offer ADR. I don't know if it applies to trespass because it may not be contract law.
    Trespass would imply that the alleged offender is not a customer because they should not be there.

    But is a hospital a business for the purposes of those regulations?
  • Ralph-y
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    I asked about time scales and ADR....








    "As outlined in our standing operating procedure (attached), we aim to respond to appeals
    received on a weekly basis and hold appeals panels on a monthly basis.
    Alternative dispute resolution(ADR’s) are used by companies affiliated to the British
    Parking Association (BPA) when considering appeals against Fixed Penalty Notices
    (FPN’s). Aintree University Hospital NHS Foundation Trust does not operate FPN’s, we
    operate a contract to park on site, and when this is breached we issue a Breach of
    Contract notice (BOC)
    We are not members of the BPA and are not obliged to operate an ADR procedure. "


    was the FOI reply :eek:


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  • Redx
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    Thought it might be aintree as few of them follow this path

    Suggest you read the trethowans aintree threads which may be from previous years as I don't recall any recent ones
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