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Why are property prices so different in the north?

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  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,077 Forumite
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    In London we are so posh we get mineral water through our taps :D

    The only trouble is I can’t reach mine from the jacuzzi.
    That’s when I call on the butler.
  • westernpromise
    westernpromise Posts: 4,833 Forumite
    Filo25 wrote: »
    In London we are so posh we get mineral water through our taps :D
    I have actually have three - one for still, one for sparkling and one for champers, what what.
  • Jonbvn
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    The only trouble is I can’t reach mine from the jacuzzi.
    That’s when I call on the butler.

    What you have water in your jacuzzi not champagne? How desperately middle class.:p
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • Zero_Sum
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    One advantage of living in London is the water, as in the relatively small amount of it that falls from the sky each year ;)

    You say that.....


    ... but its funny how nearly evey year the SE gets a hosepipe ban
    In my 40 years of living up north, a hosepipe ban is something i have never experienced.
  • lisyloo
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    Zero_Sum wrote: »
    You say that.....


    ... but its funny how nearly evey year the SE gets a hosepipe ban
    In my 40 years of living up north, a hosepipe ban is something i have never experienced.

    Another great reason to give up a six figure job (not).

    You have soft water and no hosepipe bans?

    I live in a flat we don’t need (or have) a hosepipe or have to bother with a garden.
    Before you talk about green spaces we have massive spaces like hyde park, green park, st James park etc. Which are fabulous and historical as well as many smaller more local green spaces.
    There’s a lot of green space in London.
  • Filo25
    Filo25 Posts: 2,140 Forumite
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    Zero_Sum wrote: »
    You say that.....


    ... but its funny how nearly evey year the SE gets a hosepipe ban
    In my 40 years of living up north, a hosepipe ban is something i have never experienced.
    Last hosepipe ban in London was 2012 so maybe a slight exaggeration ;)
  • PixelPound
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    Last hosepipe ban in London was 2012 so maybe a slight exaggeration ;)
    Well they don't need a hosepipe to water the garden, bit of overkill for a window box. :p
  • westernpromise
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    nic_c wrote: »
    Well they don't need a hosepipe to water the garden, bit of overkill for a window box. :p
    The irony is, the window box in London is worth more than the average northern house.
  • eamon
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    Capital cities tend to be like London, Paris, Madrid and the smaller places like Dublin, Copenhagen. They suck the life out of the rest of their countries. Its no secret and nor is the solution. Move functions out. There is no reason for London to be the seat of government anymore, no reason for government departments to be there. Technology has solved that issue the only stumbling block is the political will. The recent farce regarding the cost of repairs to the Houses of Parliment has highlighted all the reasons for a shift out of London.


    If private business wants to stay there then that is up to them.
  • edgex
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Why do you think that there's a high proportion of public sector jobs up north. Old school friend of mine worked in Croydon (first job). Within 9 months of joining was told office was relocating to Teeside. (Shipyards were in terminal decline by then). Choose to move elsewhere.

    Quite a few big central government departments had their processing functions moved out of London, but the management functions remained in London.

    It's very easy for the politicians to crow about the number of jobs moved out of London, but they won't ever tell you what it is in terms of the departments wages bill.

    If no-one at DeptX in Newcastle earns >£50k, & everyone at their London office is earning >£50k (+ London allowance!), then you can easily be in a situation where the numbers employed in London are a minority of employees, but a majority of the wage bill.
    (It also feeds through into pay rises & bonuses)


    It's similar with benefits.
    If DeptX isn't paying a real living wage, then where are the places most likely to see employees requiring benefits/tax credits? Those places where they've moved the lower paid jobs to.
    So in our example, it doesn't look good for Newcastle to have all these staff on benefits, BUT it's not a local decision. The decision on pay levels is taken in London, therefore the responsibility for those benefits lies in London, & so X number of benefit claimants needs adding to the London figures.
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