Commuter car (primarily motorway) - up to c. £20k

mchale

C/E class merc or audi A6

DrEskimo

Tarambor wrote: »

EVs are great for the environment but you're just kidding people if you think an EV will save money.

I was bored so looked at the total cost of ownership of both the Ioniq hybrid and the Ioniq EV over 5yrs with 20,000 miles per year. Hopefully I can prove to you that EV's are both great for the environment AND will save you money

We will compare this petrol hybrid for £18,500, with this EV for £23k.

We'll look at costs over 5yrs to coincide with the car warranty so we don't have to factor in out of warranty repair costs.

Depreciation at 60% for both; £7,400 for the Hybrid, £9,200 for the EV.
Fuel costs; 20k miles averaging 60MPG at £1.25 per lt for petrol = £9,000 over 5yrs.
20k miles assuming 4mi/kWh is 5,000kWh + 10% energy loss = 5,500kWh, at £0.05 per kWh = £1,375 over 5yrs
VED; £700 for the hybrid, £0 for the EV.
Servicing; Full servicing costs from Hyundai can be found on their website by typing in the reg of each car. Added up it works out at £2,473.51 over 5yrs for the hybrid and £1,073.37 for the EV (and only 1 per year, as apposed to 2 with 20k miles per year)
MOT/insurance; going to be the same for both so didn't bother...

Totals
Hybrid: £23,273.51
EV: £16,693.37

A saving of £6,580.14, or £1,316.03 per year....

Oh and there is the cost to replace brake pads/discs, which will probably never need doing on the EV!

So even if you kept it way beyond the 8yr battery warranty, you have save so much already that even in the unlikely scenario you need to pay £5k to replace the battery, you are still ahead. Besides, you could look at repurposing the degraded batteries into a home storage solution for minimal extra cost, and replace the cars battery with a higher density battery pack to not only restore the original range, but possibly double it from it's original range!

silverwhistle

I have to say that my first thought was also an Ioniq EV, not from personal experience but from mooching around the EV boards. It would also have the advantage of being able to go into central London should you ever need (have!) to.



I believe that there's a longer range one on the way, but for your purposes that might help bring down the prices on existing models, and they'd certainly do the job you need doing.

Tahlullah

I am all style over substance and would recommend the Range Rover Evoque. I do the equivalent mileage by motorway and it can 45 mpg. However, I am not driving the 4x4, so it makes a difference to the diesel consumption. And very comfortable, great seating position, fantastic suspension for a comfortable ride, and has the torque to pull when you want to put your foot down.

worried_jim

Tahlullah wrote: »

I am all style over substance and would recommend the Range Rover Evoque. I do the equivalent mileage by motorway and it can 45 mpg. However, I am not driving the 4x4, so it makes a difference to the diesel consumption. And very comfortable, great seating position, fantastic suspension for a comfortable ride, and has the torque to pull when you want to put your foot down.

I don't think anyone would seriously recommend a RR Evoque if they wanted a reliable car. I do get the style over substance though, they look very nice I'm my local Waitrose car park. Has anyone ever bought one with their own money or are they all rented for three years on pcp's?

loskie

an Astra Elite Petrol Turbo. Pay around 12k and bank the change.

chunkytfg

worried_jim wrote: »

I don't think anyone would seriously recommend a RR Evoque if they wanted a reliable car. I do get the style over substance though, they look very nice I'm my local Waitrose car park. Has anyone ever bought one with their own money or are they all rented for three years on pcp's?

I'm glad someone said it before I did! :rotfl::rotfl:

Might as well have suggested a Ferrari to someone who was looking for a great off roader!!:rotfl::rotfl:

Clive_Woody

Skoda Superb sportline (or other) with the 2.0l 190 TDI engine would be reasonably sprightly (there is a 2.0 TSI 272bhp petrol version but I suspect the mpg will be somewhat lower than you hoped for but would be lots of fun to drive).

If you can see beyond the badge these are great cars. Spacious, comfortable and very well equipped. For £20k you could get a newer model than an equivalent BMW, plus servicing and maintenance would be a lot cheaper for a more reliable car.

If you don't need something as big as Superb then there is the Octavia, which is equally as reliable and well equipped and is available in a choice of engines and trims.

Might be worth a test drive before discounting it and going for a BMW/Merc/Audi.

foxy-stoat

................Just going to hang myself as I drive a £3,000 50 mpg car and spend 2 hours a day driving to and more work, must be doing something wrong or do not earn enough to drop £20,000 on wheels.

Rockingfella

Wow - some excellent responses here.

I find the EV argument interesting as the fuel saving is quite significant.

Interesting nobody has suggested a second hand EV - shame the Model 3 hasn't been around for a few years... That looks like a great car.