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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    sold prices

    current listing

    look at the other more recent sold prices nearby.

    £180k just opposite
    went SSTC at £180k

    and the forsale/SSTC

    gone out a mile to get a decent sample map view will show you where they are

    price...3b.....4b+
    0-140 05/11
    0-160 09/16
    0-180 11/21
    0-190 19/26 0/1
    0-200 22/28 2/1
    0-210 23/29 2/1
    0-220 24/30 4/1
    0-250 30/33 6/9
    0-max 39/36

    Look at the 3x4beds upto £200k

    also the 4x3beds that are 200k+

    then work your way through the SSTC below £200k
    there must be some decent comparisons in there.

    Looking at the stock levels and the SSTC £200k is top end for the 3 beds as that is where the 4beds come in.

    This one is has no add value opportunities.

    I think I would be tempted to have a look at the cheaper 3beds where you can get a better LTV and look for something you can add value.

    this caught my eye just for the covered workshop/garage,

    or this for £140k

    plenty below £190k to be looking at, although some will be in areas may be you areas not so keen on.

    If you go older you will get bigger plot and extra space for less money

    if location is flexible your choice gets better.
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    edited 3 June 2019 at 10:49AM
    There's no garage.

    What do you men shared access I'm a bit confused. They just park it outside the property. There seems to be no issues with that?


    Look at the photo of the house on Street view. There is the drive to the house on which you can only get one car and beyond that there a strip of blocked paving and then a kerb and then some more blocked paving that looks like a road. The bit that looks like a road is not a normal road it is a shared access. It is this shared access that no one is allowed to park on. Now follow street view down the "road" to the point where it joins a road that is not blocked paving but is tarmac. That is a public road you can park a car at the kerb on there. You can't park it anywhere on the blocked paving because that is an access road and although it is wider at the end where the house you are looking at is you still cannot park anywhere on the blocked paving.



    This is what we are all warning you about. The house has only got room to park one car. There is nowhere to park a second one.


    The estate agent does not know what is in the deeds to the house and can only rely on what the vendor tells them. They will also say anything that helps to sell the house even though it probably isn't true when you know the full details.


    Do not rely on anything that the estate agent tells you about parking. They only want to sell the house so that they can get paid for doing it.



    One of the reasons why I know about this is because I own a house with allocated parking off a blocked paved area like this and no one is allowed to park anywhere on that blocked paved area apart from in the allocated spaces because all the rest is a right of access. Even if it doesn't block someone in they are not allowed to park there.



    You can tell the difference because if the builder had intended this to be a normal road it would have been tarmac. It isn't blocked paved to make it look nice it is blocked paved to show that it is different to what a normal road would be. These joint access roads are quite common on newish estates.



    That house has got only one parking space. If you park a car outside in the joint access the neighbours can make you move it. No one is allowed to park in that joint access. Do not buy this house if you want to park two cars close to the house. If you can only get one on the drive you will have to park the other on the normal tarmac road and walk up the joint access to the house.
  • warby68
    warby68 Posts: 3,164 Forumite
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    You can offer low but 3 weeks is not long plus there is every chance the vendors need a certain price to afford their onward move.

    My view, no science just experience, is that offers 5-10% below asking might open the door but anything more than 10% runs the risk of being dismissed as time wasting and you lose your chance of creating a good impression as a serious buyer for vendor to warm to.

    If you really like it, start with a decent offer - if you're not bothered start a bit lower.

    I don't actually ike the house - small kitchen blocked off from the family room/orangery - its effectively one big lounge and a small kitchen. More common is for extension to benefit the kitchen and create second family space.

    Parking looks iffy - not one to believe the agent on I'm afraid. Need to check deeds - if it isn't yours or public highway it could easily change if someone objects.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    No planning for the extension on the map portal
    check permitted development and building regs.

    According to the plans the brick up to the bit that becomes road belongs to the the properties

    the bit to the side of the property is probably not shared.

    No 44 will have the bit next to that(huge plot NO 44)
    No 46 has drive down the side of theirs.
  • anfieldred
    anfieldred Posts: 267 Forumite
    I know this street - I've got a relative who lives 4-5 doors down from this house for sale.

    With regards to parking in the street - people do it down there all the time. Have a drive down there one evening this week, there's usually a couple of cars in the road, or parked near the grass verge bit as you turn right into the cul-de-sac.

    Spec/price wise... it's hard to say as the prices on Zoopla for semis in that street range from 180-195, but it is in a lot better condition than some of the others that are on that road.

    As with any house,here's pros and cons to it - it's generally a nicer area than some of the ones listed above, and you're within walking distance from Asda/Gemini etc., and the kitchen/bathroom don't need anything doing, but then the spare bedrooms upstairs are a bit smaller than other semis.

    I wouldn't go much higher than say 190-194, because you could get something still in WA5 (think Sankey/Penketh - and it's only 5 mins from the Omega/Gemini junction) for around the same price or less. Also, look at what's sold/SSTC at the minute for under £200k, there'll be something else that comes up if not.

    What about some of these that you could probably knock down on price a bit more?


    Vincent close - 2 mins drive from that house you posted

    Another vote for the bank gardens one listed above - it's set back from the main road slightly, you'll only get people who live there in/out of your street

    Rothay drive - probably 5 mins away but tucked away & quieter

    Marina av - 5 mins drive away, road is a dead end so you won't get through traffic
  • anfieldred
    anfieldred Posts: 267 Forumite
    edited 3 June 2019 at 12:07PM
    Also, I dealt with the same EA who were really difficult to deal with when I bought in Penketh, and told my wife what she wanted to hear. I wouldn't go off their say so on parking. If that's one of your main concerns, go and check it out over a few days/evenings and see what the score is.

    I saw in your post history (I commented on one ages ago), that you're working in Manchester, is this still the case? if so, factor the travel time into that house. The m62 backs up quite early, and doesn't always clear till after 9am, and there's roadworks running until September at the earliest, and it's a 50mph zone pretty much most of the way once you get past junction 10 towards Manchester.
  • scholesfan88
    scholesfan88 Posts: 265 Forumite
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    The trouble with Sankey/Penketh is that the house prices are on the high side for the type of area. You only have to look at Chapleford, constant dispersal orders by the Police on the estate as it's full of yobs, full streets worth of cars being keyed and having tyres slashed on the same night yet the house prices are sky high.

    I rent in the Sankey area and now looking to become a FTB, I'm moving further afield.
  • markin
    markin Posts: 3,864 Forumite
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    edited 3 June 2019 at 1:25PM
    The road belongs to the the properties so its just an un-adopted road, Unless the is a sign put up how would any public know you can't park there? Would a resident have to get a lawyer to send a letter if someone continually parked on it but not actually blocked someone in. If the is no sign and no yellows lines anyone could park up, as long as you don't block a dropped curb / legal crossing.
  • A cynic might say that "unadopted road" is an anagram of "massive shared maintenance issue waiting to happen".
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    I am just waiting for the removal van to not be able to get outside the house because it can't get up that narrow road and it can't turn round at the end due to people obstructing the access. It is a parking/access nightmare waiting to happen that road.
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