Violent neighbour with MH issues

ska_lover

Thanks all for commenting and sharing ideas (and thanks again for not quoting this)

Just wondered if anyone had been in a similar situation.

Much appreciated

Comms69

ska_lover wrote: »

It has been reported to the police, no action taken - a statement from the person assaulted taken, however no arrests were made so the person who was beaten, is afraid to return home... - Without details there doesn't seem to be a reason to arrest. Arrest requires a Code G necessity and if that doesn't exist, then no arrest can take place


The police told us to get a civil injunction - Speak to a solicitor

There's not nearly enough detail to be identified, but I've redacted some of it as a courtesy.

elsien

Is everyone reporting to 101 each time an incident happens?
Have the police been asked why they are not considering a harassment warning? Take up the chain if necessary.

Are people complaining to the HA and keeping a record of all incidents?
Has the vulnerable person taken legal advice and used the HA complaints procedure?

Are you sure you're getting the full picture? Rehousing in another city seems an unusual way for the HA to proceed.

elsien

Comms69 wrote: »

There's not nearly enough detail to be identified, but I've redacted some of it as a courtesy.

Why would a physical assault not merit an arrest? I've seen people arrested for less.

Comms69

elsien wrote: »

Why would a physical assault not merit an arrest? I've seen people arrested for less.

Because, like I said, an arrest - ANY arrest - requires necessity under Code G.


A violent crime is not a necessity. Arrest is an investigative tool. It must be justified.


The offence does not dictate the necessity.


In this case the name and address of the suspect are known. Any interview can be voluntary. There is no necessity to secure evidence, e.g. by search. So there is no necessity.


You haven't seen anyone arrested for more or less. Because the arrest is not relevant to the offence. For example you might commit a speeding offence, refuse your details and be arrested. Someone else might be accused of rape, but be fully cooperative and therefore no arrest is required.

Primrose

Can I suggest you call the 101 non emergency police number, ask for the name and address of your Area Police Commander and write to him or her personally, raising it as a formal complaint that your request for assistance from the police has not been dealt with correctly.


If you known which Police Area you live in and Google it the appropriate website may come up and provide this information with a contact number.

unholyangel

Do they have any family or friends that visit/you know? Maybe a quiet word with one of them?

GP and/or local hospital (mental health ward perhaps). It sounds like they need help that they're not getting.

Their victim with their own issues should seek support from their own health services for the strain it's probably putting on them too.

onwards&upwards

Comms69 wrote: »

Because, like I said, an arrest - ANY arrest - requires necessity under Code G.

You don’t think paragraph 2.9, sub-paragraphs c and d suffice in the event of a violent assault on a vulnerable person who has reason to fear a repeat of the offence?

onwards&upwards

ska_lover wrote: »

Yet having your head kicked in on your own doorstep, and the offender still prowling round on the outside landing is a lesser offense?

Did you witness this?

It does seem odd that no action has been taken for this level of violence.

People with mental illness are more likely to be arrested, not less, statistically.

dekaspace

Sadly mental health is used as a get out of jail free card these days, one of my neighbours is a substance abuser and we have found needles in garden before, her friends have smashed in the doors in past and windows trying to get in, tried breaking into another neighbours proprety, empty their bodies of "waste" on peoples doorsteps even exposing themselves to the residents whilst doing so and each time cries mental health problems and how they can't kick her out. The police were useless and just told the other residents to move!

onwards&upwards

ska_lover wrote: »

There is great fear of a repeat offence, and it has already happened since typing earlier the offender is constantly prowling the hallways waiting for a chance to get the victim alone once again and has attacked the victims home today. This guy has told his mental health team that he is planning to shank the victim next time they meet. However because he is not of sound mind, nothing done once again

But no repercussions via the police, because the violent one has mental health issues.

However the victim is being told that the only way to stay safe is to accept an offer of alternative accomodation in another town a long way away....leaving their friends, family , part time job, health team.....

Sorry, but that sounds unlikely. I don’t think you’re privy to all the details here.