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No Summons but Judgement ordered
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Then you have a tricky call to make
Pay the set aside and get it set aside and win then case. But no fee refund so 255 down
Pay set aside fee and get it set aside and lose the case so say 250 down and 255 for set aside
You are unlikely to get that fee refunded
So you have to balance up either paying the ccj or risking it
So its take a card or stick.. ...0 -
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That's got really old stuff at the end of that WS and arguing 'no loss' is doomed. That is not a recent WS, that;s based on an old one.
You just need to read more recent set aside threads and copy their endings.
Your first paragraphs were good except remove these words which sounds like you lost the paperwork at home under a cushion or something!as the court hearing was not sent or misplaced;
You also need to mention that in the interests of justice you have prospects of successfully defending the claim itself and the added costs which included sums invented by the parking firm which were never incurred and were an abuse of process for the Claimant to add to a parking charge.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Hello Team,
Please see the revised WS. With some help, there is additional info about the County Court Act (Section 110 & 113) which relates to my case.
I will submit this first thing tomorrow unless I hear anything different:
IN THE COUNTY COURT AT: XXXXX
CLAIM No: XXXXXXX
BETWEEN:
XXXXXXXXXX(Claimant)
-- and --
XXXXXXXX (Defendant)
___________________________________
WITNESS STATEMENT
___________________________________
1. I am XXXXXXXXXX and I am the Defendant in this matter. This is my supporting Statement to my application dated XXXXX 2019 requesting to:
a. Set aside the Default Judgement dated XXXXX as the court hearing was not sent or misplaced in post;
b. In the interests of justice the Defendant has the prospects of successfully defending the claim itself and the added costs which included sums illusive by the parking firm which were never incurred and were an abuse of process for the Claimant to add to a parking charge;
c. Order for the Claimant to pay the Defendant £255 as reimbursement for the set aside fee;
d. Order for the original claim to be dismissed.
2. Default Judgement
2.1. I understand that the Claimant obtained a Default Judgement against me as the Defendant on XXXXXX 2019. However, the hearing date had not been duly served at my current address. Any notice of order shall be sent to every person whose name the debtor has notified to the County Court, as being a creditor of his or who has proved as stated in Section 113 (a) of the County Court Act 1984. Therefore, I was not aware of the County Court Judgement. None of the information regarding a court hearing date was appropriately corresponded and it is to my belief that there was an omission by the court or postal service, in failing to inform me that a hearing was to take place, which I would certainly have attended.
2.2. If a debtor summoned to attend the County Court by a judgement summons fails to attend on the day and at the time fixed for any hearing of the summons, the court may adjourn or further adjourn the summons to a specified day and order the debtor to attend at that time on that day with the requirements of Section 110(1) of the County Court Act 1984. Therefore, I was awaiting the court's next communication regarding the hearing and directions. I believe the order was premature and I was not given a fair opportunity to attend a hearing or submit any evidence or my Witness Statement.
2.3. The last communication I had received before the Judgement in Default was the Notice of Allocation to the Small Claims track (Hearing) dated 05/11/18.
2.4. On the 03/08/2018 I wrote to XXXXXXX County Court and rejected the Claimants request to have a trial by letter. Please see the attachment and confirmation from the court clerk of my requested day in court. (See Evidence A)
2.5. On the 15/09/2018, XXXXXXX County Court contacted me requesting for a copy of the directions questionnaire as it was misplaced by the court clerk(s). (See Evidence
2.6. On the 04/10/2018 XXXXXXX County Court contacted me again requesting another copy of the directions questionnaire. This was the second time in the space of few weeks. On this basis, and the admission of the clerk that it was “misplaced”. I believe due to another error I either did not receive the court hearing date or it was defectively posted and was never received. (See Evidence C)
2.7. On the 08/07/2018 XXXXXXX County Court received my defence including my counter claim. It was in the interest of the Defence to defend the claim as well as counterclaim the incurring costs of time spent and harassment to the defendant. (See Evidence D)
2.8. On the basis provided above, I believe that refusing the Claimants trial by paper, re-issuing the directions questionnaire twice to XXXXXXX County Court and collating a counterclaim. Through careful due diligence and compliance to the court’s requests, deemed likely that I could have my day in court to recover the costs time spent on this dishonest claim. The Defendant would not have fulfilled and obeyed these obligations otherwise.
2.9. Considering the above I was unable to defend this claim reasonably. I am confident that the Default Judgement against me was issued incorrectly and thus should be set aside.
3. Order dismissing the Claim
3.1. I further believe that the original Claim by the Claimant has no merit and should thus be dismissed. I understand that the Claimant is a Parking Company which seeks to claim for “Parking Charge Notices” which the Claimant believes are due because of an alleged breach of contract for parking by a motorist.
3.2. It appears that the Claimant has obtained details of the vehicle for which I am the Registered Keeper and used those details to make a claim for a ‘Parking Charge Notice’. Any Notice to Keeper served by the Claimant must comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. This includes the requirement to issue the Notice to Keeper within 14 days of the alleged incident. If the Claimant has not complied with the requirements of the Act they cannot claim this charge against me as the Registered Keeper in any case.
3.3 If the Notice to Keeper was not issued within 14 days, then the Claimant is required to prove who the driver of the vehicle was at the time of the alleged incident. The vehicle to which I am the Registered Keeper was at the time insured to be driven by two adults. I submit that the Claimant cannot provide such evidence to prove the driver of the vehicle they claim was involved in the alleged incident.
3.4. If the Claimant has obtained details of the vehicle for which the Defendant is the Registered Keeper, and used those details to make a claim for a “Parking Charge Notice’’, I dispute the claim in its entirety as I do not know the wording of the contract neither the means by which the contract was alleged to come into force.(See Evidence E)
3.5. I submit that this is not a penalty charge notice but a private one based on contract law and therefore the Claimant must:
a) show evidence that they have complied with the POFA or alternatively, show evidence of the driver's identity, to prove that this is the right defendant;
b) set out the facts on which it is asserted that the claimant has a cause of action against this defendant, and
c) identify the 'relevant obligation' of the defendant to pay parking charges and the 'relevant land' on which the parking is said to have occurred;
d) state whether the claim is in relation to a 'relevant contract' or in respect of an alleged trespass or other tort; (as per the POFA 2012 Schedule 4)
e) disclose full particulars and a contract, in order to evidence a claim in law;
f) evidence how a parking charge which the BPA Code of Practice sets a ceiling for, of not more than £100, has escalated to a triple 'recovery' reaching over £248 despite the POFA also stating that a keeper can only be pursued for the sum on the Notice to Keeper (double recovery not being allowed).
3.6. A requirement of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 is that this any Notice to Keeper served by the Claimant must be served within 14 days of the date of the alleged incident. Since I have not received any documentation from the Claimant prior to finding out about the Default Judgement, I submit the Claimant will not have complied with the requirements of the Act and thus cannot claim this charge against me as the Registered Keeper in any case.
3.7. I further submit that the parking charge notice is without merit due to substantial issues in law. This is for the following main reasons:
3.8. Lack of Standing by Claimant: The Claimant is unlikely to be the landowner of the car park in question and will have no proprietary interest in it. This means that the Claimant, as a matter of law, will have no locus standi to litigate in their own name. Any consideration will have been provided by the landholder, and only they would have been able sue for any damages or trespass.
3.8.1. No Loss Suffered by Claimant: Their claim is presumably based on damages for alleged breach of contract. It is a fundamental principle of English Law that a party who suffers damages through breach of contract can only seek through court action to be put back in the same position as they would have been if the breach had not occurred. In order to do so, they must demonstrate their actual, or genuine, pre-estimate of loss. I submit that no loss has been suffered by the Claimant as a result of any alleged breaches of contract on the part of any motorist of the vehicle of which I am the Registered Keeper. I further submit that any loss to the landholder (which would be the only party able to claim such losses) would be at most a few pounds.
3.8.2. No contract with the claimant: Any contract must have offer, acceptance and consideration both ways. There would not have been consideration from the Claimant to the motorist; the fee for parking benefits the landowners, not the Claimant. Therefore, there is no consideration from the motorist to [name of claimant].
3.9. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100. The claim includes an additional £148.55, for which no calculation or explanation is given, and which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.
3.10. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has incurred legal representation costs specifically related to this claim, for which a £50 cost has been included in the claim.
3.11. On this basis I believe that the Claimant has not provided any reasonable cause of action and thus the claim should be dismissed in its entirety.
3.12. In order to make informed decisions and statements in my defence as keeper of the vehicle, I will require copies of all paperwork and images of all signs from the Claimant.
Statement of Truth:
I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true.
Full name: XXXXXXXXXXX
Signed: ______________________
Evidence enclosed:
A: XXXXXXXXXX
B: XXXXXXXXXX
C: XXXXXXXXXX
D:XXXXXXXXXX
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3.8.1. No Loss Suffered by Claimant: Their claim is presumably based on damages for alleged breach of contract. It is a fundamental principle of English Law that a party who suffers damages through breach of contract can only seek through court action to be put back in the same position as they would have been if the breach had not occurred. In order to do so, they must demonstrate their actual, or genuine, pre-estimate of loss. I submit that no loss has been suffered by the Claimant as a result of any alleged breaches of contract on the part of any motorist of the vehicle of which I am the Registered Keeper. I further submit that any loss to the landholder (which would be the only party able to claim such losses) would be at most a few pounds.
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Have you put this right, Lynxy? You have TWICE included a doomed paragraph.
And where is your six point Draft Order, like you see in all other set aside threads now?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Hi All - Yes I did put this right (taking out the twice doomed paragraph and the six point draft order) and submitted it. The set aside was accepted. My court date is next week, is there anything I need to prepare in advance?
I guess I am waiting for the Claimants defense? Having said that, I have the previous defense before the set aside.
Just a reminder of events:
- Parked on double yellow on private land
- Followed forum procedure, case went to county court
- Rejected trial by paper,
- Received letter from the courts saying it will go to court and to await a date.
- Waited for the county court hearing date.
- Never got the hearing date but received CCJ
- Applied for set aside with the reason I never got the call for court.
- Set aside accepted, hearing next week.0 -
What about your Witness Statement and evidence?
When was that due to be filed (with the court) and served (on the Claimant)?
Costs Schedule?0 -
My court date is next week, is there anything I need to prepare in advance?
I guess I am waiting for the Claimants defense? Having said that, I have the previous defense before the set aside.
- Applied for set aside with the reason I never got the call for court.
- Set aside accepted, hearing next week.
yes there is
Witness Statement + Exhibits + Costs Schedule
usually at least 2 weeks before any hearing, one bundle to the court , one to the claimant
claimants dont file a defence , you do , as defendant, which you have probably already done , you would be awaiting their WS0 -
!!!!!!, I will try and do this tomorrow / Thursday. Hopefully this won't be too late.0
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