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Woodford Concerns

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  • You have star fund managers like Terry Smith and Nick Train ( neither of whose funds are in the Wealth 50 now for different reasons). The difference is that they are part of a team giving their input but Woodford had only himself to listen to.
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  • talexuser
    talexuser Posts: 3,533 Forumite
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    Some interesting statistics here:

    Woodford links
  • gadgetmind
    gadgetmind Posts: 11,130 Forumite
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    Malthusian wrote: »
    When the cult of the star fund manager goes wrong as spectacularly as this, a bit of rubbernecking is inevitable.

    Well quite, but it is important that we learn from the past. China addressed the cult of Bolton, Woodford has now gone the same way, and they really won't be the last.

    Neither is spreading your money across a range of "stars" a great solution is you just end up with a high fee closet tracker.
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  • SeniorSam
    SeniorSam Posts: 1,673 Forumite
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    edited 6 July 2019 at 4:40PM
    Just seen a video explaining what Woodford seems to have done, which may be of help for some of you .
    I hope it is allowed to add this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb3q77y1IvQ
    I'm a retired IFA who specialised for many years in Inheritance Tax, Wills and Trusts. I cannot offer advice now, but my comments here and on Legal Beagles as Sam101 are just meant to be helpful. Do ask questions from the Members who are here to help.
  • Nicosy
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    More problems for Woodford as his 4th largest holding is de-valued...

    https://news.shack15.com/benevolent-ai-faces-valuation-plunge/
  • Brian65
    Brian65 Posts: 255 Forumite
    Nicosy wrote: »
    More problems for Woodford as his 4th largest holding is de-valued...

    https://news.shack15.com/benevolent-ai-faces-valuation-plunge/

    Why is it a problem for Woodford whilst he is still getting his fees?
  • AnotherJoe
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    edited 13 July 2019 at 6:55AM
    Wait until IH which presumably is more than 10% now since who on earth would buy it, so its relative % would rise every time they sold something with actual value, a nasty little trap, gets revalued to zero.
  • dividendhero
    dividendhero Posts: 2,417 Forumite
    According company news, Woodford has been BUYING more shares in Keir

    https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/k/kier-group-plc-ordinary-1p/share-news

    !!!!!! ? :mad::mad:
  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    According company news, Woodford has been BUYING more shares in Keir

    https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/k/kier-group-plc-ordinary-1p/share-news

    !!!!!! ? :mad::mad:

    I wouldn't get too agitated about it. Ten days earlier the funds he controls sold 1.9% of the company (ownership dropped from 15.87% to 13.97) and then it went back up by 250k shares (0.15%). A couple of hundred thousand is insignificant really.

    Just noise really, although if he did cancel or reverse a sale transaction or sell a chunk and buy back again on 15th July, that would have been a good day to do it given the price wobbles took the market price to a low point then. But insignificant in the big picture, no real point second guessing what might have happened
  • talexuser
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    The top investment trust bought in June turns out to be Patient Capital (beating Scottish Mortgage). So a lot of people are willing to juggle the falling knife, and there are opportunities at ~33% discount.
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