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patch9495
patch9495 Posts: 141 Forumite
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edited 24 May 2019 at 4:56PM in Savings & investments
Morning All,


I am new to investing and have setup a S&S ISA through Cavendish online. Not having a great deal of knowledge in the industry I have invested a small amount (1K) and decided to opt for managed funds opposed to individual stocks.
I am willing to take a little risk however don't wish for this to be a great deal.


My current portfolio includes 40% cyclical 28% Sensitive and 30% defensive stocks whilst being 50% active dividend focused stocks and 50% passively managed tracker stocks. I will be increasing the passively managed funds in due course.


Can anyone offer any further advice to each sector type allocation ratio I should go for along with active/passively managed fund split ratio
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,640 Forumite
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    Can anyone offer any further advice to each sector type allocation ratio I should go for along with active/passively managed fund split ratio

    My advice would be not to waste your time building a bespoke portfolio with a £1k investment.

    Stick to a low cost multi-asset fund until you get closer to £100k.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • patch9495
    patch9495 Posts: 141 Forumite
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    Hello and thank you for the response,


    The managed funds I have invested in are multi asset funds consisting of stocks bonds cash and property.


    The bespoke portfolio that you mention has been created through a combination of low cost multi asset funds recommended to me and I am seeking advice as to what balance ratio to try and strike with these
  • DrSyn
    DrSyn Posts: 897 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2019 at 11:32AM
    1. As you are new to investing I suggest you look at the following before you proceed any further:-

    http://www.kroijer.com/

    https://www.ifa.com/indexfundsthemovie/


    2. I agree with dunstonh (post 2).

    Multi-Asset Funds

    Vantage Life Strategy
    HSBC Global Strategy
    L&G Multi Index Funds
    Blackrock Consensus
    Architas Passive

    These have wide diversification while minimising risk, at low cost.

    There is also Fidelity Multi Asset Allocator

    Baillie Gifford Managed. Holds individual shares, rather than index funds.


    3. This website might be of interest to you:-

    https://monevator.com/category/investing/



    Q. As a point of interest who recommend your bespoke portfolio to you. Why can you not have them give you advice on what balance ratio to strike with these?
  • eskbanker
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    patch9495 wrote: »
    The managed funds I have invested in are multi asset funds consisting of stocks bonds cash and property.


    The bespoke portfolio that you mention has been created through a combination of low cost multi asset funds recommended to me and I am seeking advice as to what balance ratio to try and strike with these
    As above, the overwhelming recommendation on here for novice low-value investors will be to stick to one global multi-asset fund, but if you've gone down a different route based on recommendations from elsewhere then perhaps you should ask them for their thoughts about balance and allocation?

    You could always post more detail about exactly what you've actually invested in, but prepare to be shot down in flames!
  • AnotherJoe
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    OP, Just to clarify have you bought with your £1k half a dozen different funds themselves consisting of underlying shares and bonds?
  • patch9495
    patch9495 Posts: 141 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2019 at 3:15PM
    I have purchased 4 multi asset funds 2 passively managed dividend and capital growth balanced funds and 2 actively managed dividend focussed funds consisting of shares bonds cash and property.


    Within my stocks portfolio this has lead to a split on the shares of 40% cyclical 28% Sensitive and 30% defensive stocks.


    I will be investing regularly monthly going forward prodmintantly into passively managed passive funds to try and bring my portfolio balance closer to 70:30 passive:active and wanted to see peoples opinions on where I should go from here
  • AnotherJoe
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    patch9495 wrote: »
    I have purchased 4 multi asset funds 2 passively managed dividend and capital growth balanced funds and 2 actively managed dividend focussed funds consisting of shares bonds cash and property.

    Within my stocks portfolio this has lead to a split on the shares of 40% cyclical 28% Sensitive and 30% defensive stocks.

    I will be investing regularly monthly going forward predominantly into passively managed passive funds to try and bring my portfolio balance closer to 70:30 passive:active and wanted to see peoples opinions on where I should go from here


    I am sure that most would concur with me that there's no point in micromanaging with (no offence meant ) such small amounts.


    If you want 70:30 either find a fund that has that, or buy equal quantities of the same fund variant with 60:40 and 80:20. Or for now start with just one of those two,and later on switch to the other. I'd also get trackers to keep costs down.
  • eskbanker
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    If you want 70:30 either find a fund that has that, or buy equal quantities of the same fund variant with 60:40 and 80:20.
    As I read it, OP isn't looking for a 70/30 equities/bonds split like many would, but an active/passive split in those proportions.

    I don't really understand the strategy or objectives, it reads to me like "I'm going to the supermarket and 30% of what I buy needs to be in yellow packaging and 28% of it needs to have the letter R in the name, so what size of trolley do I need and what should I cook for dinner?"....
  • patch9495
    patch9495 Posts: 141 Forumite
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    Being new to investing you could say that I am unsure myself of my strategy/objectives other than trying to beat the rates offered by savings accounts


    I have opened up the S&S ISA to try and offer a gain on the poor rates currently given by savings whilst saving for the long term. This is why I have opened with a small amount.


    Although I could live if worse case scenario all of the money were to be lost I would place myself between low and medium on the risk scale
  • ColdIron
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    patch9495 wrote: »
    I have purchased 4 multi asset funds 2 passively managed dividend and capital growth balanced funds and 2 actively managed dividend focussed funds consisting of shares bonds cash and property.
    There is really no point at all in mixing funds at this level of investment. I would just use one of the professionally managed ones listed in post #4, any of those will stand you in good stead until £30K and beyond. Why are you focussing on dividends? I am guessing you don't need the income now so you should be looking at growth or total return
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