Advice needed: Changing the car

DrEskimo

AdrianC wrote: »

As I said, that was over an 800 mile three-day trip.

That doesn't leave a lot of time for slow charging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fex5mvVFEU

Good video. Couldn't agree with him more, charging infrastructure is a complete joke.

Would love for him to borrow a Tesla and do the same journey....it's so striking how different the experience is for long distance driving.

AdrianC

DrEskimo wrote: »

Good video. Couldn't agree with him more, charging infrastructure is a complete joke.

Not his first EV roadtrip, either.

400 miles in an e-NV200 in 2014
https://hubnut.org/2014/11/14/the-electric-roadtrip-nissan-e-nv200/

700 miles in an e-Golf in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchyIu-gFQo

400 miles in a Leaf in 2016
https://hubnut.org/2016/06/15/ev-roadtrip-30kwh-nissan-leaf-pt1/

Would love for him to borrow a Tesla and do the same journey....it's so striking how different the experience is for long distance driving.

Sure, if you stick to the routes where superchargers are. My nearest is a 150 mile round trip. Ian's is 200. But "walled gardens" never solved anything in the long term. I don't think he's done a Tesla roadtrip, but he's had an S for a shorter test. I'm sure he's got his eyes on a 3.

DrEskimo

AdrianC wrote: »

Not his first EV roadtrip, either.

400 miles in an e-NV200 in 2014
https://hubnut.org/2014/11/14/the-electric-roadtrip-nissan-e-nv200/

700 miles in an e-Golf in 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchyIu-gFQo

400 miles in a Leaf in 2016
https://hubnut.org/2016/06/15/ev-roadtrip-30kwh-nissan-leaf-pt1/


Sure, if you stick to the routes where superchargers are. My nearest is a 150 mile round trip. Ian's is 200. But "walled gardens" never solved anything in the long term. I don't think he's done a Tesla roadtrip, but he's had an S for a shorter test. I'm sure he's got his eyes on a 3.

Cheers.

Well of course you don't have to. Tesla's are free to use other chargers. But yes, there are still many black spots, even with the addition of Tesla's network.

Tesla have always been open to offering the supercharger network to other manufacturers, but they declined:

“We’ve always said that this is not intended to be a walled garden, and we’re happy to support other automakers and let them use our Supercharger stations. They would just need to pay, you know, share the costs proportionate to their vehicle usage, and they would need to be able to accept our charge rate or at least our connector, at least have an adapter to our connector. This is something that we are very open to, but so far, none of the other car makers have wanted to do this. It’s not because of opposition from us. This is not a walled garden.”

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-supercharger-v3-first-details/

I'm sure when Ionity starts to roll out in the UK it will be similar to the supercharger network, it's just a shame they are so far behind....

gord115

BananaRepublic wrote: »

My neighbour said he saw a new diesel Polo for £12,000 at a local VW dealer, sounds odd to me as the latest isn’t diesel. I have a newish Polo, a very comfy car. However, check out DriveTheDeal etc. for offers. I recently drove a Citroen C3, horrible design and ergonomics, but quiet and comfy with good mpg.

This was the car he saw:

https://www.whiterose.uk.com/used-cars/9498981-volkswagen-polo-s-1.0-65-ps-5-speed-manual-5-door/

Nearly new, a bargain price, but the engine is sluggish, and yes I’ve driven one, it’s fine as a means of transport but about as much fun as watching paint dry. Nice roomy car, not that I’m biased ...

That car is not a diesel!

almillar

Do you also have to pay a monthly battery rental?

No - Renault Zoe is the only car currently on sale with battery rental right now, AFAIK - this is a bit old now and dates back to consumer (and manufacturer!) fears about the longevity of the batteries, hence not wanting to 'own' one, just 'rent' it. But they last much better than everyone thought.

But the Jag i-Pace is not a cheap nor efficient EV!

DrEskimo

DUTR wrote: »

Do you also have to pay a monthly battery rental?

As above, the Zoe's are the only EVs that still offer a battery rental version today, but you can buy a Zoe without battery rental as well.

I made sure to find a used Zoe that did not have a battery rental, but they are few and far between....

BananaRepublic

gord115 wrote: »

That car is not a diesel!

I know. Neighbour thought it was reduced due to being diesel, not sure why he thought it was.

ukbfg

I don't see the point in buying a relatively new 3 or 4 year old car and then trashing it's value with huge mileage.

Get something a bit older where most of the depreciation has already taken place and then keep it well serviced and you should be fine. Modernish cars are generally pretty reliable, as long as they're serviced and maintained routinely.

I haven't checked, but I'd be looking for a 7-10 year old medium sized, high spec (price difference at that age is nominal) diesel, with a full service history and long MOT for around the £2-3000 mark.

gord115

I haven't checked, but I'd be looking for a 7-10 year old medium sized, high spec (price difference at that age is nominal) diesel, with a full service history and long MOT for around the £2-3000 mark.[/QUOTE]

A 7-10 year old diesel to do 100 miles per day?
Surely he needs something reliable not an old banger!:eek:

AdrianC

gord115 wrote: »

A 7-10 year old diesel to do 100 miles per day?
Surely he needs something reliable not an old banger!:eek:

Ohnoes! You couldn't possibly use something as positively ancient as a 12-plate for ~26k/year!

<holds head in hands in despair>