landlord visit

helpneeded2014

Mr.Generous wrote: »

Changing the lock may well be a breach of the tenancy, it would just cost you money from your deposit to have it changed again. It also could be a mortice lock, not so easy. Calling the police - good luck with that, its a civil matter.

If landlord gives 24hrs notice of an inspection and they can't get in they can force entry. If the police did attend - which is at best a 50/50 - the only arrests made would be to prevent a breach of the peace or something similar.

Just stick to politely declining the repairs as you wish to abide by the tenancy agreement and quietly enjoy your use of the property you are paying for.

If a tenant on notice changed the locks to keep me out a coupe of possibilities, I might smell gas and force entry, I might notice damage to the front door and enter as the premises have obviously been broken into and left insecure, who knows.

Your quiet enjoyment also includes being left alone by the landlord, if they are pestering you tell them in writing to stop and just say no further communication will be made regarding work done as you are leaving on xxx date and it can be done any time after that. You could point out that the house is obviously perfectly acceptable in its current state as none of these jobs were considered necessary for you to live there and pay full rent.

I did tell them they could do the repairs when i lieft a while back but then they come again asking if they could do them, but these repairs have been needing done for over 4 years so i can't see what the rush is now.

letitbe90

Comms69 wrote: »

Harassment is a criminal matter


illegal eviction - which is what they are implying - also a criminal matter.


Where's the civil matter here?

Where is the harassment? If he changes the locks why would the scheduled people not turn up - nor the landlord nor the inspectors know that they are unwanted.

What illegal eviction? It is OP being paranoid.

Basically, the advice given was total rubbish - what OP needs to do is speak to the landlord and resolve this. Not dig his head in the sand and call the police. I can assure you the police will not be impressed.


This whole issue is down to the OP thinking he will be illegally evicted, with nothing to even suggest such an event would occur.

Comms69

letitbe90 wrote: »

Where is the harassment? If he changes the locks why would the scheduled people not turn up - nor the landlord nor the inspectors know that they are unwanted. - Well I would assume the OP would refuse the requests

What illegal eviction? It is OP being paranoid. - I did say potentially. If the LL was to act in a way which in effect forced the OP to leave. e.g. having major works done

Basically, the advice given was total rubbish - what OP needs to do is speak to the landlord and resolve this. Not dig his head in the sand and call the police. I can assure you the police will not be impressed. - If someone is kicking off outside your home, the correct advice is to always ring the police.


This whole issue is down to the OP thinking he will be illegally evicted, with nothing to even suggest such an event would occur.

I disagree. I think that's exactly the plan. To create as much discomfort as possible

letitbe90

Comms69 wrote: »

I disagree. I think that's exactly the plan. To create as much discomfort as possible

That is just paranoia, the landlord obviously has good reason to get work done so it is reasonable they will want to have it inspected prior to work commencing.


The landlord starting work without tenants permission is ludicrous, it will hurt the landlord more than the tenant as tenant can distrupt work greatly. The idea that the landlord might evict them illegally is also even more silly.

Seriously guys, stop feeding irrational paranoia. The OP thinks the inspectors will pretend to inspect but then, on the landlords order go "aha, now I am in, I will do the repairs!". Something out of loony tunes I think.

helpneeded2014

letitbe90 wrote: »

Where is the harassment? If he changes the locks why would the scheduled people not turn up - nor the landlord nor the inspectors know that they are unwanted.

What illegal eviction? It is OP being paranoid.

Basically, the advice given was total rubbish - what OP needs to do is speak to the landlord and resolve this. Not dig his head in the sand and call the police. I can assure you the police will not be impressed.


This whole issue is down to the OP thinking he will be illegally evicted, with nothing to even suggest such an event would occur.

Tried to resolve it was on the phone last for an hour. And i wont call the police becuse i know how useless they are.

need_an_answer

OP...What work is it that the LL actually wants to do?

I understand that you say its been building up for over 4 years but surely if you allow some of the work to be done,depending what it is ,it could improve your quality of life whilst you still remain in the property.

I understand that predominantly the work is to prepare for someone else moving in after you leave but if for example its to repair something that has really caused you inconvenience then I don't see why you shouldn't allow entry for that to happen.

For eg if you were living with a broken boiler and needing to heat water another way then having a new one fitted even for a short time would be less inconvenient for you than to continue as you were.


Ultimately the choice is yours but it does seem as if you want to cause issue with the LL whilst you still can.

I in no way defend anyone who takes 4 years to fix problems but there are 2 sides to every story.....

helpneeded2014

need_an_answer wrote: »

OP...What work is it that the LL actually wants to do?

I understand that you say its been building up for over 4 years but surely if you allow some of the work to be done,depending what it is ,it could improve your quality of life whilst you still remain in the property.

I understand that predominantly the work is to prepare for someone else moving in after you leave but if for example its to repair something that has really caused you inconvenience then I don't see why you shouldn't allow entry for that to happen.

For eg if you were living with a broken boiler and needing to heat water another way then having a new one fitted even for a short time would be less inconvenient for you than to continue as you were.


Ultimately the choice is yours but it does seem as if you want to cause issue with the LL whilst you still can.

I in no way defend anyone who takes 4 years to fix problems but there are 2 sides to every story.....

Big list of repairs just a few of them are big hole in living room floor / windows all drafty seals are shot none really cause an inconvenience but it's all to late they should of done them years ago not last minute also told me they will keep my deposit for new carpets but nothing wrong with them and even if there was surely after 4 years it's wear and tear

need_an_answer

Did you have a check in inventory...?

When you vacate the property you should leave it in the same state as documented in the inventory,with allowance for wear and tear.

Without seeing the inventory and the carpets now,we cant comment on whether new carpets are needed...and example being dirt is not wear and tear neither is perhaps a burn or a stain,


If you feel that your deposit is being withheld inappropriately then once you have checked out you can raise a dispute with the deposit service who hold your deposit.

helpneeded2014

need_an_answer wrote: »

Did you have a check in inventory...?

When you vacate the property you should leave it in the same state as documented in the inventory,with allowance for wear and tear.

Without seeing the inventory and the carpets now,we cant comment on whether new carpets are needed...and example being dirt is not wear and tear neither is perhaps a burn or a stain,


If you feel that your deposit is being withheld inappropriately then once you have checked out you can raise a dispute with the deposit service who hold your deposit.

no inventry done by the landlord and everything is the same now as wehn we moved in if not better. even on the reference this is part of what it says

(The house has always been spotless (to date) and the appliances clean and undamaged. Surprisingly, there has been (to date), no sign in the property that a dog has been living there! A conscientious plan of hoovering must be occurring!)

need_an_answer

Then if there was no check in inventory the LL will find it extremely difficult to make any claim om your deposit simply because he cant prove what it was like when you moved in.

When you move out request your deposit back in full and if this is not received,raise a claim with the deposit service used to hold your deposit.


Just to cover yourself prior to leaving I might suggest that you take some photos of the condition to supply as part of your claim if the deposit isn't automatically returned.

The deposit services will adjudicate if necessary in the event of a challenge although without a check in document the LL will struggle to retain your deposit whatever they are saying now....