Unfair manager?

nicechap

OP only lasted 4 days at a job in January. Probably used to finding new jobs quickly.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5950278/breach-of-contract

Doesn’t bode well for their home ownership ambitions.

jonnygee2

I am new to a job - 1 month in. It's a job that has contracted hours, but is actually flexible. If you finish the job early, which is common - workers (there are approx 100 of us) are generally free to go home early and don't even need to check with management if it's ok to go home early - they can just go....

You should always, at least, work your contracted hours. Other people not doing it is not an excuse or reason. You could be fired for walking out early and not doing what you have been told to do, that would be completely reasonable.

What the hell - why am I doing this

I guess one day, the employer may look out that their outgoing payroll, and ask 'what the hell, why am I doing this - spending all this money on work hours that my employees don't do'. And where will that leave you? I guess right now you think it's 'fair' that you receive a full paycheck, but somehow unfair that you were asked to actually do what you have signed a contract to say you will do.

so I did half the job and got out of there.

How incredibly disrespectful! Who on earth do you think you are?

but if I am spoken to about leaving and not completing what was asked of me - I'd like to point out that they were in the wrong

I think you'd be wiser to get your attitude in check and learn to have a bit of respect for the people who pay your salary. If I were you I'd apologise profusely and promise to work my contracted hours from now on.

Savvy_Sue

suki1964 wrote: »

Never ever worry about what everyone around you does or does not. Do your job

Especially in the first two years ...

homeless9

Seems people want to assume this 15 minute job was some critically important job that only 1 person could do.....no.....

The job was trivial and menial, given to me to make up my hours.....the manager was like 'what can I get you to do to make up your hours'.....and picked something out......whilst other employees were putting on their rucksacks and heading out the door 30 minutes before their contracted hours were up.

The job could have been done by 3 or more people and as well as this our company building is huge, so the manager could have easily found a trivial, menial job for anybody that came back early to make up their time.....

but no, they were free to go....

On top of this, I typically finish late without pay and with no lunch break - therefore doing the company a favour.....this was the first time I had been back early in ages and I'd expect on this rare occasion the favour to be returned and I'd be free to go, but no, the manager wants to single me out to stay by giving me menial tasks while others who are always finishing early get to go home early.

All you people against me is laughable, none of you would be happy in this situation. Although a pretty minor scenario, nobody would be happy with this.

Let's give you a scenario...

Bob works at Sainsbury's, everyone is free to go home early, but the manager singles Bob out to stay to stack shelves even though there are 20 rows of shelves to stack, floors to clean, Melons to unpack in the warehouse.....

This is fair to you guys? this is alright? You would be ok with this situation? are you crazy? you people like being walked over? wouldn't stand up for yourself? so if this starting happening on a regular basis you would be fine with this? I am certain you would not be fine with this.

elsien

It's not happening on a regular basis though, is it?
It's happened once.
And with only a month's service it's really not the time to be getting arsey with a manager making a reasonable request.

There's a time and a place for picking fights at work. And this isn't it.
Choose your battles more wisely if you want to stay employed.

homeless9

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Absolutely the OP is in the wrong, on so many levels. One person was required to do one job for 15 minutes all within normal working hours, and a manager chose the new guy. Nothing wrong with that. Possibly wanted to see how they would react to the request when others were leaving early. Now the manager has the answer - the new guy is unreliable and workshy. Can't even be relied on to do one simple job.
1 month into the job I would expect any employee to be trying to impress management, not hack them off and give them an excuse to "let them go".
Probably sensible to start scanning the "Situations Vacant" section of the local paper if they have such a thing now.

You have completely made up that it was a one man job......if it was a 1 man job such as helping the manager carry something somewhere then I would see it a lot differently....and I would react like you have....but it was NOT a one man job.

It was a menial job within a building the size of 2 football fields, where there are plenty of menial jobs that could be given to the employees coming back early. The job was given to me just for the sake of making up time....not because it had any significant importance.

Why wasn't this manager making up other employees time?

Singled out, unfair treatment.

You people think this is fine?

So if this starts happening to me on a regular basis where I am singled out to 'make up my hours' with trivial and menial tasks, whereas all other employees are free to go home early and not make up their time - you think I should accept that? and this is fine for the employer to do?..........ok! sure!

jonnygee2

So if this starts happening to me on a regular basis where I am singled out to 'make up my hours' with trivial and menial tasks, whereas all other employees are free to go home early and not make up their time - you think I should accept that? and this is fine for the employer to do?..........ok! sure!

Whether we think it is 'fine' or 'fair' (which actually it seems like we all do) is irrelevant anyway. The point is it is completely legal and therefore there is nothing you can really do about it.

Your options in this situation are:

1) Leave
2) Stay, protest against it, probably get fired
3) Suck it up and do what you are told

Most people, faced with this kind of situation, chose 3, because 1) and 2) are not viable options.

theoretica

As mentioned, perhaps they were testing the new employee to see how you behave. Now they know.


Perhaps they were randomly irritated by this particular task being undone and someone needed to do it sometime. Someone needs to do the small menial tasks.



If one person can do it alone it is a one person job. Maybe three people could have done it in 5 minutes - but that doesn't stop it being a one man 15 minute job.



You say you typically finish late, but others are always leaving early - is this more than just not being quite up to speed with a new job?

London50

Sorry but if in future you ask a question make sure that it is one that EVERYONE on here will agree that you are in the right.
The answers you have been given are correct so if you don't like it just jack the job in and find something that suits your personal lifestyle.

KatrinaWaves

You ave went from it being common for jobs to be completed and everyone to leave early, to you frequently working past your contracted hours. And you have only been there a month?

All those things can't be true at once.