Eurocarpark PCN -Afterhours parking

jaysonj

hi everyone,

Need some advice on this PCN...

So The Gym Sutton has some 2Hrs parking agreement with Sainsburys next to them.

so i went to gym on 21/4/19 between 2.15am-3.48am....i got a PCN saying the vehicle was in breach of the following terms and condition.
"Your vehicle was parked longer than the maximum period allowed".
its less than 2 hrs though......
i know its not store working hours.. but the parking time counter at the Sainsburys entrance showed me that i have 2 hours from my entry time and even the boards around just show there 2 hours free parking and no mention of any operating times.

is this a valid PCN??? thx

Coupon-mad

No private PCN is 'valid' or legit, as the industry operate an outrageous scam.

Usually at a Gym you have to input your VRN onto a keypad to claim your free time parked.

Is that on the signs in the gym car park?

Is the keypad visible inside the gym?

Have the staff drawn it to your attention?

You know how to appeal from reading NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST.

jaysonj

Gym has an pin based entry system....parking is just an arrangement between sainsburys and the gym group....you could use it whenever sainsburys is open i guess and you dont need to validate the parking anywhere or with anything.

Redx

complain to the gym to try and get it cancelled , and find out what should be done for an out of hours parking event, because usually there is an ipad or similar where you record a VRM into the system for exemption - so get the gym managager to clarify it with Sainsburys and get this pcn cancelled (but keep the pcn , dont let anyone have it, take a copy or a picture of it with you)

also read the NEWBIES thread you were pointed at where post #1 has a ready made template in blue text for the appeal to ECP, appealing as KEEPER , no blabbing about who was driving, not to anyone

NeilCr

Redx wrote: »

complain to the gym to try and get it cancelled , and find out what should be done for an out of hours parking event, because usually there is an ipad or similar where you record a VRM into the system for exemption - so get the gym managager to clarify it with Sainsburys and get this pcn cancelled (but keep the pcn , dont let anyone have it, take a copy or a picture of it with you)

also read the NEWBIES thread you were pointed at where post #1 has a ready made template in blue text for the appeal to ECP, appealing as KEEPER , no blabbing about who was driving, not to anyone

This sounds like an informal arrangement between the gym and Sainsbury's so doubt the gym have any clout in cancelling a ticket. Seems like one of these 24/7 gyms with minimal supervision.

OP doesn't have to display a permit for example. We can use our local council car park for three hours free with a permit displayed. Gym can't do anything about the tickets as car park is council owned.

jaysonj

Thanks mate,
I just spoke to thegym customer service and they said there is nothing they could do since the normal operating times apply to gym users as well....

The pcn states " i overstayed the time limit" and in small letters it states i was there without authorisation.....

My only point of argument is there is no board in the premise stating the operating times and the entry display board (ANPR thing) stated that i can stay there for 2 hrs from my entry time....i might have the clip in my dash cam to prove it..... Is this something valid...

So i made this mistake the following day too..still waiting for that pcn.... so thats going to be (£80 quid)

I went a through the FAQs in the forum.....should i just send an appeal as stated??

Redx

if you have a postal NTK, appeal it as KEEPER using the blue text template in post #1 of the NEWBIES thread


if you have done so and have a popla code , start drafting your popla appeal

Coupon-mad

My only point of argument is there is no board in the premise stating the operating times and the entry display board (ANPR thing) stated that i can stay there for 2 hrs from my entry time....i might have the clip in my dash cam to prove it..... Is this something valid...

Yes - go get photos and show us the signs please.

So i made this mistake the following day too..still waiting for that pcn.... so thats going to be (£80 quid)

No it isn't!

Not a single person here PAYS ECP, not even after losing at POPLA Stage appeal!

jaysonj

sorry not able to post any links

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so thats the entry point.....

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thats the board inside.....

i m going to appeal as soon as i get home....my only worry is i kind of get the feeling that i was in the wrong since i parked there in the night when the store is actually closed...

but the NTK letter states i overstayed the time--which actually doesn't makes sense...

jaysonj

picture from my dashcam

imgur.com/Ey7x88O

so the ANPR board stated i have 2 hours on entry....which contradicts their rules of overnight parking( if they had any)....this is a valid point right??

an a picture of the sign
imgur.com/apdd6PO

Coupon-mad

https://pasteboard.co/IdVnJt7.jpg

https://pasteboard.co/IdVoI34.jpg

https://imgur.com/Ey7x88O

https://imgur.com/apdd6PO

my only worry is i kind of get the feeling that i was in the wrong since i parked there in the night when the store is actually closed...

but the NTK letter states i overstayed the time--which actually doesn't makes sense...

so i went to gym on 21/4/19 between 2.15am-3.48am

Doesn't the dashcam show you drove in at 00.57 and had until 02.57?

Am I reading that wrong, or is that dashcam footage from another night?