VCS 'Parking Outside Designated Bay' defence helpppp needed!

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You can do better than that. Get a witness statement from your neighbour and serve it with your own.

Does the letter pre-date the ticket. That would be awesome.

Coupon-mad

Does the letter pre-date the ticket. That would be awesome.

And no doubt could be arranged...

bambooparking - just to check, you do know the evidence is not submitted until WS & evidence stage I hope? You can certainly put two witnesses down (YOU plus neighbour).

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Don't mislead the court whatever you do. That is all.

Coupon-mad

Yes - I know - but producing a letter is producing a letter...!

Guys_Dad

bambooparking wrote: »

it was on the same occasion, over a weekend (one on saturday, one on sunday!) - i hadnt moved the car. i agree that it was stupid of me to park in my neighbours bay, but my neighbour has said they are more than happy to provide me with a letter saying that they are ok with it as they never use their parking spot anyway! and that they agree vcs are vile scammers. i was planning to use that letter in my WS bundle but now im not sure my case will even get heard, as i may have just messed it up

Get that letter!! Use it in your defence saying that you have permission from the relevant leaseholder.

Strongest defence point.

Snakes_Belly

You may want to read this case taken from the Parking Pranksters blog.

Excel v Miss Bradsell C1DP6Q75 Oldham. 27/2/17

The concept behind De Minimis is that "the law does not concern itself with trifles." So if the letter of a contract is broken, but the spirit is not and no harm has been done, then no damages for breach contract apply.

This case involved a car parking across a line as a result of other cars parking across the line and had resulted in a knock on effect. Excel had claimed that the defendant had taken up another space thus disadvantaging another driver. In this case it does not appear that any other drivers were disadvantaged as all the cars had parked in a similar way.

You would need to read the blog but it seems to me as if this case could be persuasive on your case especially as you have a WS from your neighbour to say that they were not using their space, Who have you disadvantaged?

I am no expert on this but its a thought.

Excel and VCS are the same company.

Coupon-mad

Excel and VCS are the same company.

No, two different Ltd companies.

Same owner, Simon Renshaw Smith (Captain Clampit) discussed all over this forum.

Snakes_Belly

Coupon-mad wrote: »

No, two different Ltd companies.

Same owner, Simon Renshaw Smith (Captain Clampit) discussed all over this forum.

Sorry. Stand corrected on that one. Should have remembered that as it can be important when it comes down to landowner authority and signage. The Prankster has a blog about their 'switcheroo' tactics.

bambooparking

Can i just confirm, do you mean to say I should get a letter from the neighbour who is a tenant by the way and not the landowner of the bay which i parked in that pre-dates the ticket saying they give authority for me to park in the bay because they dont use the bay?

NeilCr

bambooparking wrote: »

Can i just confirm, do you mean to say I should get a letter from the neighbour who is a tenant by the way and not the landowner of the bay which i parked in that pre-dates the ticket saying they give authority for me to park in the bay because they dont use the bay?

Did they, actually, give that authority?