DW Gym

MistyZ

Complaints to staff at front desks and to Customer Services have a truly lousy success rate.

I think a lot of us aren't too keen on complaining to managers and CEOs ... but that's what tends to work.

NeilCr

Do we know who owns the car park yet?

Although it says it's a Retail Park it seems there are only two businesses operating there - the gym and a big old B and Q. It's quite new so maybe owned by a developer?

ETA

Maybe Positive Location Properties Limited?

https://jpg.group/portfolio-item/cornmill-crossing-retail-park-barrow-in-furness/

The_Deep

Nearly all of these PCNs are a scam.

PoPLA decisions are very often flawed, they use fledgling law graduates who are unable to obtain contracts with proper law firms.

Get your MP involved, they are well aware of the MO of these scammers and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these private parking companies. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.

Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Boogie11

I believe it is phf investments ltd foundation house

Boogie11

Spoke to manager he said they had no ability to get parking tickets quashed lost the ability I. July 2018 as they were cancelling to many.

Decided to write a complaint what do you think

Dear Manager DW Gym Barrow in Furness



After our recent phone call reference the parking ticket that I have received for parking at your Gym, I believe that the biggest factor in me receiving this ticket is the lack of an induction or health and safety brief when receiving my gym membership, I do believe this should have been offered/given as part of health and safety legislation all gyms must follow, to provide a safe environment for all their users and provide them with guidance on using their facilities which should include parking. I’m writing this email to inform you that if I am prosecuted and fined then I Intend to claim for all my losses against DW gym.



Regards Mr .......

KeithP

You won't be prosecuted. You won't be fined. This is a civil matter.

Boogie11

Any tips on what to write instead would be much appreciated? TIA

MistyZ

How about ' .... facilities including an overview of parking arrangements.'

Then you can give a whole sentence to the parking issue after that. Perhaps something like: 'I understand that you have previously cancelled large numbers of parking charge notices and am therefore all the more surprised that the risk of costly PCNs is not brought to the attention of new members. As you will be aware, the car park is poorly lit, with many defective...' (broken?) 'lights. It therefore becomes a trap for the unwary on dark mornings / dark evenings.'

And then mention your usual conscientiousness about parking, if you feel that is a true reflection of who you are, and then repeat your request for the PCN to be cancelled on this occasion.

NeilCr

Would you have complained about the lack of induction if it wasn't for the car parking ticket?

If not I'd just go with what MistyZ said on it's own. Anything else is likely to distract. Your draft has the parking almost as an afterthought.

Boogie11

So I have had a letter confirming I'm going to court all I have done so far is an AOS issue date was 19 Nov 19, I have lots of pictures and videos of the premises showing the poor illumination and signage and a letter from the gym confirming I was a customer on date and time and wishing me luck to get the allegations dropped. I'm not sure how to load videos or pictures to the defence yet... any help would be great. I have obtained what I think is an adequate defence to upload but wanted some advice first thanks in advance.
In the County Court
Claim Number: XXXXXX

Between

Civil Enforcement LTD
v

XXXXXX

DEFENCE




Background - the driver was an authorised patron of the onsite business

1. The Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question. The Claim relates to an alleged debt arising from the driver's alleged breach of contract, which is denied. It is further denied that there was any agreement to pay the Claimant a punitive £100 'parking charge notice' (PCN) for the lawful conduct described below.

2. The allegation appears to be that the 'vehicle was not authorised to use the car park' based on images by their ANPR camera at the entrance and exit to the site. This is merely an image of the vehicle in transit and is no evidence of 'No Authorisation' or not being a patron of the facility.

3. The Defendant has already proved that patronage, and it is the Claimant's own failure, caused by their deliberately obscure terms and iPad that catches out far too many victims at this location, that has given rise to a PCN that was not properly issued from the outset.


Unclear terms - unconscionable penalty relying upon a hidden keypad

4. According to the sparse signs in this car park, it now transpires that to avoid a Parking Charge and despite there being no Pay & Display machines or similar, visitors were expected to know to input their Vehicle Registration Number (VRN). This was far from clearly signed and the purported keypad was nowhere to be seen.

4.1. It is contended that the Claimant failed to alert visitors to an onerous change and unexpected obligation to use an iPad, or risk £100 penalty. The Claimant is put to strict proof, with the bar being set by Denning LJ in J Spurling Ltd v Bradshaw [1956] in the well-known 'Red Hand Rule' where hidden/unknown terms were held to be unenforceable: ''Some clauses which I have seen would need to be printed in red ink...with a red hand pointing to it before the notice could be held to be sufficient.''

5. Upon receiving the claim, the Defendant researched this all too common issue and was advised to complain to the landowner. Unsurprisingly, this was conspicuous by its absence as an option offered by CEL in their signs or paperwork, prior to commencing proceedings. The Manager was incensed that these complaints were becoming a daily occurrence, blighting the business and upsetting customers ever since the ill-advised contract began, yet the business was now stuck with it for the time being.

5.3. This fact was later confirmed in all readings of the Private Parking Code of Practice Bill, from February 2018 to date, where MPs universally condemned the entire industry as operating 'an outrageous scam' typically relying upon hidden, punitive terms that purposely rely on drivers not seeing an unexpected obligation. Both the British Parking Association ('BPA') Trade Body and indeed, Civil Enforcement LTD themselves were specifically named and shamed more than once in Parliament and the Bill was introduced purely because the industry is out of control, self regulation has failed, and in many cases any 'appeal' is futile.

No legitimate interest - the penalty rule remains engaged

6. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or that it has the necessary authorisation from the landowner to issue parking charge notices in these circumstances, and to pursue payment in the court in their own name. Even if they hold such authority, the Claimant is put to strict proof that this authorisation expressly allows litigation against patrons even when the business in fact supports the Defendant in wanting an unfair charge to be cancelled.

7. Even if the Claimant is able to produce such a landowner contract, it is averred that there can be no legitimate interest arguable by the Claimant in this case. When - all too often at this location - CEL unfairly harvest the data of a registered keeper to charge a genuine patron, any commercial justification in the form of landowner support for such unfair ticketing is de facto absent.

7.1. Further, there was no overstay nor any mischief to deter, nor was there any misuse of a valuable parking space by the Defendant, whose car was parked in good faith, not in contravention nor causing an obstruction, and was certainly not 'unauthorised'. With no 'legitimate interest' excuse for charging this unconscionable sum given the above facts, this Claimant's claim is reduced to an unrecoverable penalty and must fail.

7.2. This case is fully distinguished in all respects from ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67. That Supreme Court decision sets a high bar for parking firms, not a blanket precedent, and the Beavis case essentially turned on a 'complex' and compelling legitimate interest and very clear notices, where the terms were held not to involve any lack of good faith or 'concealed pitfall or trap'. Completely unlike the instant case.

8. In addition, there can be no cause of action in a parking charge case without a 'relevant obligation' and/or 'relevant contract' (the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 refers). Expecting a driver to somehow realise they need to input their VRN into an unseen keypad, in what the consumer is confident is an unrestricted free car park for patrons with no visible machines of any description, is indisputably a 'concealed pitfall' and cannot be described as a 'relevant obligation'.

9. This Claimant uses ANPR camera systems to process data but fails to comply with the Information Commissioner's 'Data Protection Code of Practice for Surveillance Cameras and Personal Information' (the ICO Code). This is both a specific Data Protection and BPA Code of Practice breach. The Supreme Court Judges in Beavis held that a Code of Practice is effectively 'regulation' for this blatantly rogue industry, full compliance with which is both mandatory and binding upon any parking operator.

9.1. The ICO Code applies to all ANPR systems, and states that the private sector is required to follow it, in order to meet its legal obligations as a data processor. Members of the BPA are required to comply fully with the Data Protection Act (DPA) and all ICO rules and guidelines, as a pre-requisite of being able to use the DVLA KADOE system and in order to enforce parking charges on private land. At this location, the Claimant has failed on all counts and the data gathered about patrons of the site is unconscionable and excessive, given the lack of transparency about the risk of a charge for failing to do something that the driver never knew was a requirement.


Lack of good faith, fairness or transparency and misleading business practices

10. If a parking firm was truly acting in good faith and keeping the interests of consumers at the heart of their thinking, they would concentrate on ensuring firstly, that patrons could not miss the keypad(s) and secondly, could not miss the fact that, if they did receive an unfair PCN as a genuine customer, they had a right to ask the landowner/Managers to cancel it. Clearly the Claimants interest is purely in misleading and punishing customers and extracting as much money as possible in three figure penalties, given that this is the only way CEL make any money.

11. The Claimant's negligent or deliberately unfair business practice initially caused the unfair PCN to arise, then the Claimant's silence regarding the simple option of landowner cancellation rights, directly caused these unwarranted proceedings. This Claimant cannot be heard to blame consumers for not trying a futile 'appeal' to them, whilst themselves hoping the Defendant does not discover that CEL withheld the option of landowner cancellation all along.

11.1. By failing to adequately alert patrons to the keypad, and then withholding from the registered keeper any/all information about the 'user agreement' with the landowner which would have enable an immediate route of cancellation, are 'misleading omissions' of material facts. These are specific breaches of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 and transgress the tests of fairness and transparency of consumer contracts, as set out in the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (this relatively untested legislation was enacted after the final hearing in Beavis and not actively considered in that case). As such, this claim must fail.


Inflation of the parking charge and double recovery - an abuse of process

12. This claim inflates the total charges in a clear attempt at double recovery. The Defendant trusts that the presiding Judge will recognise this wholly unreasonable conduct as a gross abuse of process. It was held in the Supreme Court in Beavis (where £85 was claimed, and no more) that a private parking charge already includes a very significant and high percentage in profit and more than covers the costs of running an automated regime of template letters. Thus, there can be no 'costs' to pile on top of any parking charge claim.

13. In addition to the original penalty, the Claimants have artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding purported legal costs of £50, which have not actually been incurred by the Claimant. CEL have not expended any such sum in this case, given that they have a Legal Team with salaried in-house Solicitors and (shamefully) this firm whose main business is supposed to be parking 'management' as a service provision, files tens of thousands of similar 'cut & paste' robo-claims per annum. No genuine legal costs arise, per case, and their in-house Solicitors cannot possibly be believed to be paid in the millions per annum for their services.

14. The added 'legal' cost is in fact an artificially invented figure, which represents a cynical attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules and achieve double recovery. According to Ladak v DRC Locums UKEAT/0488/13/LA, a Claimant can only recover the direct and provable costs of the time spent by legally qualified staff on actually preparing the claim and/or the cost of obtaining advice for that specific claim, in a legal capacity.

15. The defendant denies the claim in its entirety voiding any liability to the claimant for all amounts claimed due to the aforementioned reasons. The Court is invited to dismiss the Claim, and to allow such Defendant's costs as are permissible under Civil Procedure Rule 27.14.

I confirm that the facts in this defence are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.


Name/signature


Date