Pre-Application planning permission

itayshap

Hello,
i'm planning a house conversion into flats in liverpool.
the architect advise me to submit a pre-appilcation to the council.
1. does the council decision to the pre-application have any statutory status? can i take the chance and start the renovation based on the pre-application decision knowing that the full planing permission will probably also be approved?
2. the architect informed me that it takes around 4 weeks for a pre-application to process and can take even 12 weeks if there is high volume of work. does submitting it shortening the full planning permission process? if not, what is the sense in submitting it for simple projects? (planning permission takes around 8 weeks).
thank you,

babyblade41

It will still have to go to planning with the normal 8 week rule applied.

You have to give the opportunity for people to look at your plans and see what objections they may throw up.

Building regs will need to be sought as well.

All pre planning advice does is guide you in how best to submit your plans with a better chance of success and how to overcome any problems, but will still have to go through a full planning application .

My neighbour applied for pre planning advice but it was still refused even after appeal.

No building until everything is in place

anselld

There is no point in pre-planning advice especially if you have an Architect drawing up the plans. They should know exactly what is likely to succeed.

AdrianC

itayshap wrote: »

1. does the council decision to the pre-application have any statutory status?

No.

can i take the chance and start the renovation based on the pre-application decision knowing that the full planing permission will probably also be approved?

No. Well, you can - but you run the risk of having it turned down, or simply having them land on you for starting work without PP.

2. the architect informed me that it takes around 4 weeks for a pre-application to process and can take even 12 weeks if there is high volume of work. does submitting it shortening the full planning permission process?

No.

if not, what is the sense in submitting it for simple projects?

Simple. It's cheaper, so saves you wasting money on the full application if the answer comes back "You haven't got a hope."

babyblade41

AdrianC wrote: »

No.



No. Well, you can - but you run the risk of having it turned down, or simply having them land on you for starting work without PP.




No.



Simple. It's cheaper, so saves you wasting money on the full application if the answer comes back "You haven't got a hope."

Exactly what I was trying to say.:rotfl:. This answers your question exactly

parking_question_chap

itayshap wrote: »

1. does the council decision to the pre-application have any statutory status? can i take the chance and start the renovation based on the pre-application decision knowing that the full planing permission will probably also be approved?


2. the architect informed me that it takes around 4 weeks for a pre-application to process and can take even 12 weeks if there is high volume of work. does submitting it shortening the full planning permission process? if not, what is the sense in submitting it for simple projects? (planning permission takes around 8 weeks).
thank you,

1. No, its likely to be a gentle indication towards either yes or no. Potentially other issues might crop up during the course of a proper application.

2. I doubt it would be turned around any quicker, but I suspect if you iron out potential issues during pre application, the planning application will be less involved. In the absense of any other issues that could arise. In terms of benefits for smaller projects: I suppose somebody might be considering buying a property but wants an extension, this would get them a slightly quicker answer and would only need to provide rough sketches rather than spend a fortune on an architect. If its a no then they can decide not to proceed with the purchase without much expense wasted.

itayshap

thank you all for your replies!