If I ruled the world both the renter and property owner would AGREE a notice period either way and s

MissPickle

I'm going back to the car at the end of the week.
I've had enough i wasnt put on this earth to pay your pension landlord & by the way your tumble dryer is knackered & sort that tv ariel out & don't tell me mine is the ONLY room that uses the bathroom when there is a whole host of construction workers in it day & night coz you never fixed their en suite showers. Ensuite my backside, btw, it's a shower in the corner of one room & you seriously need to sort that damp out.
£100 a week?
Jog on.

Marvel1

ChrisK..... wrote: »

No it's the home owners home which is why they are called home owners. If that home owner wants their own property back so they can burn it to the ground that's their perogative and all they owe the renter is their AGREED MUTUAL notice. If you don't understand it I can't help it

You don't seem to understand the basic concept, you accept money to live there, you are a landlord - a business, not home owner.

seven-day-weekend

Marvel1 wrote: »

You don't seem to understand the basic concept, you accept money to live there, you are a landlord - a business, not home owner.

It is the tenant's home, yes, but it's the landlord's asset. The landlord owns it.

Mrs_Arcanum

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

It is the tenant's home, yes, but it's the landlord's asset. The landlord owns it.

It is also the responsibility of the LL to keep it in a habitable condition.

Sensible LL realise this also helps keep their assets value.

seven-day-weekend

Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »

It is also the responsibility of the LL to keep it in a habitable condition.

Sensible LL realise this also helps keep their assets value.

I absolutely agree. I don't understand why some LLs don't. If it is so bad that they can't afford to put it right, then they shouldn't be renting it.

My rental flat was only built in 2014, it still looks like new and any repairs that need doing will be done (so far all we have had to do is repair some holes in the wall that the last tenant left, and replace a shower head). I would not expect any tenant to live in a place I would not be prepared to live in myself.

In fact the flat, built in 2014, has better insulation than my 1930 bungalow where I live

ChrisK....._3

No one has to be at FAULT for them to cease to AGREE don't you know! If a property owner wants their own property back they don't have to validate it or blame anyone. They just have to give the notice period AGREED by both parties

Marvel1 wrote: »

It's not their home it's the tenents, and I welcome it.

Many landlords and tenents post, they want their property back after being aboard, for family members ect and it's not the tenents fault.

ChrisK....._3

You don't need to justify wanting your own property back. You just need to give the mutually AGREED amount of notice. You don't owe the renter anymore than they owe the priory owner. Obviously!!!

Marisco wrote: »

What, for no reason?
?

ChrisK....._3

And you think the home owners responsibility is what exactly? if fact don't answer that. You think the homeowner should be some charitable organisation that pours their own money down the toilet in order to rescue the world's homeless.landlords are renting out their second home to make money make money that's it that's all they need the money they do not owe renters anything at all except the mutually AGREED noticed. if they want more security than than that look for a landlord that offers 25 year notice period is that easy

tommix wrote: »

Imo most private landlords are money grabbing, tight fisted shysters who treat their tenants with utter contempt...Sure you get the odd good one, but most of 'em want locking up.:cool:

snowcat75

Jackmydad wrote: »

Exactly.
Most landlords are pleased to have a good tenant who stays long term, but there are all sorts of reasons to end a tenancy.
Tenants certainly don't care about the landlord when they decide it's time to go.
Still never mind, as I said earlier the good old government, whichever brand of socialist it is, will be there to pick up the slack in the market.
Of course they will!

Yep Iv had tenants that have paid rent Ok but have been a real PITA overwise....


Most of mine have ended up renting because of life choices, Quite frankly if you don't want to end up potless and unable to buy then don't go and shag the next door neighbour...

Not being able to get rid of the ones that phone you at 8pm on a Sunday because the dishwasher hasn't cleaned properly or complain about damp because they've blocked the air vents turned the extractors off and then hung damp washing every ware would be terrible.

As you say Landlords want good tenants I don't know of a single one who just get rid of them no reason.

NBLondon

I agree with Chris (mostly). If the notice period is agreed in the tenancy agreement and the tenancy agreement has a fixed period or a fixed time between re-negotiation - then the landlord should have every right to give that notice for whatever reason they choose and the tenant abides by it. It may be their "home" but only under the conditions and duration of that agreement. If you weaken S21 to prevent rapacious landlords turning over tenants every 6 months because they want to increase the rent - you need to balance it by strengthening S8 ( I think it is ) to allow the swifter eviction of problem tenants (non-payers, subletters, room wreckers etc.).

The house next door to us is rented. There have been 5 or 6 sets of tenants in 21 and a half years so that's an average stay of over three years. In every case - the tenant has chosen to move on (jobs or whatever). As far as I know, the landlord would be happy if they stayed 5 or 10. He's a builder by trade - he has only this one rental property and it's effectively a pension pot for him. So there will be a time when he sells on and knowing the guy - I suspect he might well wait for a tenant change and then decide. But if say, ill-health decides his retirement date - he will need to give notice and sell that house.