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parkrunner

tommix wrote: »

Imo most private landlords are money grabbing, tight fisted shysters who treat their tenants with utter contempt...Sure you get the odd good one, but most of 'em want locking up.:cool:

Speaking as a tenant and both daughters are tenants in different homes, not one of us has ever had a bad landlord, so my opinion and experience is very different to yours.

Iwanttobefree

The problem for some always paying, keeping the place tidy etc tenements is that all they want is a place to call home.

They don't earn enough for a mortgage even though their rent is more than likely paying someone elses (buy to let).

If they have school aged children this is even more important.

If someone rents a property as a short term let, that's another thing altogether, you expect to only stay there a short while.

While on paper, say 2 months notice might sound a lot, when someone is working full time etc, it's not that much time to find a new place.

In days gone by (when I was young) people rented places, whether flats or houses, and they stayed there as long as they wanted. I can't remember anyone in my younger days being asked to move as the landlord wanted to sell etc. Now days it seems an all to common experience.

There's another side to this, if I understand this correctly (and I might not) when someone wants to rent a place today, they usually have to go through an agency, have to pay agency fees, administration fees etc.

So someone could be looking after a place, paying their rent on time. Landlord wants to sell, gives them two months notice, they then have to find about another £1000 pounds just to find another place.

Now imagine if they are unlucky enough to move into places where every 3 months the landlord decides to sell and wants them out. It ends up costing tenants a LOT of money.

Too many modern landlords are people who have watched a few too many property programs on the TV, bought somewhere, and really don't give a toss about the well being of their tenants, they just want as much money as quick as they can. Sadly when you get too many landlords like this, then yes, new rules are needed.

Iwanttobefree

parkrunner wrote: »

Speaking as a tenant and both daughters are tenants in different homes, not one of us has ever had a bad landlord, so my opinion and experience is very different to yours.

Trouble is, both exist and while you and your friends have been lucky, many others haven't.

New rules are needed for the other type of landlord which while you have been lucky enough never to have experienced, sadly far too many people have experienced it.

dividendhero

Tottington wrote: »

This was introduced in Scotland, along with abolishing letting agents fees. All the usual guff from landlords (letting agents fees being passed on to LLs leading to higher rents, reduced housing stock) didn't happen. Surprise surprise.

I'm sure the "heavies" in Glasgow and other Scottish cities now make a good living as "bad tenant consultants"

dividendhero

BTL is certainly a strange business.

I can't think of any other service your legally obliged to provide, even if the customer isn't paying.

Also, how come if you tell lies to a court or ignore a normal court order you go to jail. But these are both common practises among tenants, yet nothing happens to them

ChrisK....._3

No it's the home owners home which is why they are called home owners. If that home owner wants their own property back so they can burn it to the ground that's their perogative and all they owe the renter is their AGREED MUTUAL notice. If you don't understand it I can't help it

Marvel1 wrote: »

It's not their home it's the tenents, and I welcome it.

Many landlords and tenents post, they want their property back after being aboard, for family members ect and it's not the tenents fault.

Andy_L

ChrisK..... wrote: »

No it's the home owners home which is why they are called home owners.

No they aren't. They're called landlords

tommix

parkrunner wrote: »

Speaking as a tenant and both daughters are tenants in different homes, not one of us has ever had a bad landlord, so my opinion and experience is very different to yours.

Yes, I suppose growing up in Notting Hill in the 60s in a property owned by the notorious Peter Rachman has somewhat coloured my view of private Landlords..:cool:

martinthebandit

tommix wrote: »

Yes, I suppose growing up in Notting Hill in the 60s in a property owned by the notorious Peter Rachman has somewhat coloured my view of private Landlords..:cool:

.....it seems very strange then that you seem to like regulations which go some way to bringing Rachman types back.

MissPickle

ChrisK..... wrote: »

If I ruled the world both the renter and property owner would AGREE a notice period either way and should not be bound beyond the terms they both AGREE to. The government have no place dictating the conditions that a property owner should tolerate! in they're own home from renters. Hands up who would be happy for the government to install a renter in one of your bedrooms in your home and let them dictate the terms that they will reside in your bedroom. If a home owner says that you can rent one of my rooms provided you set yourself on fire on Friday's you simply say no thanks, I can't agree to those terms, I'll find a different property. That's why it's called an AGREEment. Both parties AGREE terms of the trade and write out an AGREEment and get a copy each.

Mirror Online: Section 21 changes in full: Landlords to FINALLY be banned from unfair evictions.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/section-21-changes-full-landlords-14314727

This has been on the radio allll dayyy long.
I don't get it. Do you want me to tell you why? Okay then, if you reallly want to know, I'll share.
I've rented for donkeys years. I'm quite old :eek:
You already know, if you've half a brain, from the second you have those shiny little keys in yer grubby little hard working mitts, ITS NOT YOURS!!!
Get over it.
Don't play into it. Live another way.
That is all :j