End of No Fault Evictions?

SouthLondonUser

DoaM wrote: »

Didn't post #10 cover this?

Not really. Saying the sky hasn't fallen is just the unsubstantiated opinion of a single poster. I was wondering if there is any kind of more thorough assessment, but then realised the policy is less than 2 years old.

SouthLondonUser

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Can you evict if you need to sell the property?

In Scotland, yes. But you need to prove it (see my link in the other post) and, presumably, there will be consequences if you lie.

In England? Well, who knows, there isn't much to judge at the moment, but Scotland shows there can be a reasonable compromise between the needs of the landlords and those of the tenants.

Btw, I am in favour of the Scottish system, but not against a system that would make it impossible for landlords to sell or move into their properties.

Guerillatoker

AdrianC wrote: »

Perhaps.

If there are sufficient people wanting to buy the kind of property that landlords have been buying.

Remember, many "investment properties" are unmortgageable without spending money on lease extensions, or for other reasons. And, as has been pointed out, LLs buy on yield - which means they're buying the lower-priced properties already.

We're not really talking about the same kind of landlords are we?

I doubt that landlords who own a decent quantity of houses will be so affected by this legislation that they sell up. I imagine, from a limited understanding I will admit, that it will only effect smaller landlords with no more than a handful of properties, who see their landlord business as a bit of a side earner. I presume those kind of landlords are not the ones buying un-mortgageable properties?

I suppose it could result in consolidation of rental properties into large landlord corporations. (That should make them easier to re-nationalise, ahem, pretend I never said that).

caprikid1

I can see this causing a real drop in the quality and diversity of the property available.


The casual small landlord whilst disliked by many often are letting property that would not suit the traditional large landlord who seek best value per Square Meter properties with minimal maintenance.


I think this just fails to tackle the true housing crisis and leaves tenants in a worse position overall than they would have been.

SouthLondonUser

@caprikid1, do you know if any of that has happened in Scotland?

If it has, can you clarify?

If it hasn't, why should England be different?

SmashedAvacado

Re the OP

So will landlords be able to increase rent still?

if not, then that's probably a bigger headline - if so, then presumably this will create circumstances where tenants are forced to decide to leave if they can no longer afford the rent.

davidmcn

SmashedAvacado wrote: »

So will landlords be able to increase rent still?

Well, we're all just speculating about what the English rules might be given there isn't even a consultation yet, but as discussed above, yes they can in Scotland.

dekaspace

Over the years I have had mostly rogue landlords, it was more they thought they were above the law, or used outdated laws or interpreted them to their own means even had ones intentionally do something like contact council and say I wasn't living there so my benefit would be stopped so would mean I paid late which they used as a excuse to evict me (illegally)


I also think this is a difficult situation, rouge landlords will ignore it and genuine ones will lose out.

AdrianC

SmashedAvacado wrote: »

So will landlords be able to increase rent still?

I haven't seen anything suggesting tenancies won't be able to include periodic rent review clauses...

What landlords won't be able to do is say "Sign this new tenancy, at a higher rent, or I'll give you an s21".

Thrugelmir

caprikid1 wrote: »

I think this just fails to tackle the true housing crisis and leaves tenants in a worse position overall than they would have been.

In itself not an attempt to tackle broader issues. Providing stability for tenants seems a reasonable stance. At least would address the issue of those LL's that aren't really suited to running a business. In any other industry servicing customers is a prequisite to building a successful one. Taking a punt with something that is central to peoples lives is totally different.