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Carers allowance

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  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2019 at 10:44PM
    NeilCr wrote: »
    The person who is doing the caring is the one who claims the Carers Allowance - assuming they meet the criteria.

    You can pay someone to do the caring out of your own money. £50 won't go far, though, given the NMW.

    You’ve misunderstood the OP’s question. The OP is the carer and wishes to claim Carer’s Allowance. They are seeking clarification of how theearnings threshold is calculated. In order to go to makethey May need to pay someone to provide short periods of care to the carer for person. If they do half of this cost can be deducted from their gross earnings which may bring them below the earnings threshold.

    OP, I don’t know what evidence to support this may be required but I would expect it to more than I pay my friend £50 to look after x. Hopefully another poster will have experience of this and can respond to your query.

    CORRECTION: I think the above is incorrect. I think you can deduct all the care cost expenditure up to a maximum amount equivalent to half the net earnings prior up this date (as distinct from a deduction of half the care costs). Admit however that I am having some difficulty with the wording:
    15814
    Carer’s Allo wance
    A clai mant who
    1. is entitledto CAand
    15815
    2. incurs relevant care charges through being unable, because of their work, to care for either the severely disabled person in respect of whom entitlement to CA arises or any child under age 16 at the beginning ofthe benefit week in respect of whom the claimant or partner is entitled to CHB can have those charges deducted from their net profit or net earnings subject to a maximum deduction of 50% of the net profit or net earnings.

    For the charges to be deductible the care must not be provided by a close relative of either the severely disabled person or the claimant.In this context“close relative” means parent, son, daughter, brother, sister or partner.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • NeilCr
    NeilCr Posts: 4,430 Forumite
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    calcotti wrote: »
    You’ve misunderstood the OP’s question. The OP is the carer and wishes to claim Carer’s Allowance. They are seeking clarification of how theearnings threshold is calculated. In order to go to makethey May need to pay someone to provide short periods of care to the carer for person. If they do half of this cost can be deducted from their gross earnings which may bring them below the earnings threshold.

    OP, I don’t know what evidence to support this may be required but I would expect it to more than I pay my friend £50 to look after x. Hopefully another poster will have experience of this and can respond to your query.

    Aah. Thanks Calcotti!

    Yep. Mea Culpa. I read it differently
  • Sedat11
    Sedat11 Posts: 10 Forumite
    calcotti wrote: »
    You’ve misunderstood the OP’s question. The OP is the carer and wishes to claim Carer’s Allowance. They are seeking clarification of how theearnings threshold is calculated. In order to go to makethey May need to pay someone to provide short periods of care to the carer for person. If they do half of this cost can be deducted from their gross earnings which may bring them below the earnings threshold.

    OP, I don’t know what evidence to support this may be required but I would expect it to more than I pay my friend £50 to look after x. Hopefully another poster will have experience of this and can respond to your query.


    What about the expenses for work uniform? How much do they deduct for that?
  • Sedat11
    Sedat11 Posts: 10 Forumite
    calcotti wrote: »
    You’ve misunderstood the OP’s question. The OP is the carer and wishes to claim Carer’s Allowance. They are seeking clarification of how theearnings threshold is calculated. In order to go to makethey May need to pay someone to provide short periods of care to the carer for person. If they do half of this cost can be deducted from their gross earnings which may bring them below the earnings threshold.

    OP, I don’t know what evidence to support this may be required but I would expect it to more than I pay my friend £50 to look after x. Hopefully another poster will have experience of this and can respond to your query.


    What about the expenses for work uniform? How much do they deduct for that?
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2019 at 10:47PM
    Sedat11 wrote: »
    Ok so say i pay £50 a week for someone to care for him while im at work will they just accept that or what kind of proof would they request..?

    Why would you do this, when you could simply pay into a personal pension scheme and bring your weekly income down to the level at which CA can be paid?

    Look at the link calcotti posted @ 3.

    Making additional pension contributions for yourself is much, much more sensible than your complicated proposal.

    Did you actually read that para@ 15383, and the example given?
    Did you understand it?


    "What about the expenses for work uniform? How much do they deduct for that?"

    It's likely you will need to ask the DWP directly to get a ruling on that.
    My guess is there would be no deduction. Is the uniform supplied free of charge?
    If you had to pay for the uniform, this could be an expense.
    Otherwise, compare it to having to buy (and wash) your own clothes if not supplied with a free uniform - that strikes me as being more expensive.
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  • Sedat11
    Sedat11 Posts: 10 Forumite
    I did read it but dont quite understand it.
    How would it work? How much would i pay and how?
  • Alice_Holt
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    edited 11 April 2019 at 7:38PM
    Sedat11 wrote: »
    I did read it but dont quite understand it.
    How would it work? How much would i pay and how?

    Does your employer have an auto enrolment pension scheme you can opt into?

    If your gross pay was, say, £130 pw and you wanted to get down to £122 pw to be eligible for CA.
    Then you would need to pay £16 pw into a pension scheme.
    50% of £16 is £8. For CA your earnings would be £130 less £8 (50% of your pension contribution) to give a net earnings figure of £122 pw.
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • tboo
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    Sedat11 wrote: »
    Ok so say i pay £50 a week for someone to care for him while im at work will they just accept that or what kind of proof would they request..?


    So for you to get £66.15 a week you'll pay someone else £50 per week. A little extreme !!!


    Uniform allowance won't get you a lot - it's roughly £12 a year.
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