New Motorcycle disintegrating

silverwhistle

agrinnall wrote: »

Apart from perhaps some of the more recent Fiat models you can't really expect any vehicle built in Italy to cope well with Scottish winter weather. They're all designed for cruising on the autostrada and posing in piazzas, not for a commute in snow, slush, gravel and salt.

Sorry, but I lived in the Italian Alps for 7 years where there's plenty of everything you mention and plenty of old Pandas (for example) driving happily around. Probably more dented than the average British car mind!


My Italian friend has a diesel Panda and it has happily cruised the motorways from the Alps to Genova or Turin (often in the snow) and happily gone up to many ski resorts as well. I can personally vouch for its ability to take 5 adults up a snow covered mountain road. A fun ride too, overtaking a few drivers less confident in the conditions!



But as I suggested earlier biking there is like here; it does tend to be a bit seasonal, especially the non-utilitarian type bikes.

dovski

I work in Italy now and have been an aircraft engineer since 1980 and ridden bikes since before then, touring europe on a yamaha 350lc. My non acceptance of the quality and longevity of this bikes sum parts have led me down this route of non acceptance. I used it half a dozen times on days when it wasnt raining although the roads were damp sometimes, wasnt too windy to ride and on the few odd times when these conditions aligned. I bought the pannier kit and tank bag and went to to the TT last year, no issues. Comfortable, quick and practical I thought. Modern bike, a few runs to accompany my partner who passed her test in December to consolidate her riding shouldnt hurt the bike now should it?
I'm watching my £13,000 bike fade to dust before my eyes..
If it had been a honda, I agree, I wouldnt be on this chatroom, buts its not, and I am. Thanks for your posts, I wondered if there were some legal reps who've dealt with similar situations that I could approach for some help? I could tart it up and sell it but thats not the point I feel..

System

machasraven wrote: »

I have asked my OH about your problem - he is an aircraft inspector his response I'm sorry to say was to burst out laughing. A Ducati in Scotland even ridden once in winter is a big no no to him. We have 10 motorbikes between us from the years 1973 to 2004 and have ridden all year round in the past(OH has built bikes too) and neither of us would see yours as anything less than a summer toy.

What absolute rubbish, having previously owned a Ducati 848 this was on occasion used in the winter months, used on rainy days and spent some of the time outside and it looked as good as the day I bought with the exception of having done 20000 miles.


There is no way the Op should be experiencing the problems he has outlined.

dovski

Simonr66 wrote: »

What absolute rubbish, having previously owned a Ducati 848 this was on occasion used in the winter months, used on rainy days and spent some of the time outside and it looked as good as the day I bought with the exception of having done 20000 miles.


There is no way the Op should be experiencing the problems he has outlined.

Thanks, I have owned a new 916, a new 748sp and a used hodgson 996. Absolutely no issues, I have parked and sorned the Supersport now until I find a resolution and have bought a 1299 Panigale S to replace it. I love bikes and have way too much mechanical sympathy to be accused of simply neglect being the cause for such rapid deterioration, thanks for the replies.

Arklight

dovski wrote: »

I work in Italy now and have been an aircraft engineer since 1980 and ridden bikes since before then, touring europe on a yamaha 350lc. My non acceptance of the quality and longevity of this bikes sum parts have led me down this route of non acceptance. I used it half a dozen times on days when it wasnt raining although the roads were damp sometimes, wasnt too windy to ride and on the few odd times when these conditions aligned. I bought the pannier kit and tank bag and went to to the TT last year, no issues. Comfortable, quick and practical I thought. Modern bike, a few runs to accompany my partner who passed her test in December to consolidate her riding shouldnt hurt the bike now should it?
I'm watching my £13,000 bike fade to dust before my eyes..
If it had been a honda, I agree, I wouldnt be on this chatroom, buts its not, and I am. Thanks for your posts, I wondered if there were some legal reps who've dealt with similar situations that I could approach for some help? I could tart it up and sell it but thats not the point I feel..

I wouldn't take legal advice from the internet. If you want actual advice that isn't just opinion then go to the CAB, or see if you can get a free 30 minutes with a solicitor (though that free 30 minutes can lead to some very expensive minutes if you want them to carry on).

I am not sure if the law about new bikes is the same as cars, but in general UK statute says goods have to last a "reasonable" amount of time depending on what they cost, how you used them, and what they are supposed to do. You'll probably need an engineer's report at least.

You may be able to set about rejecting the bike. In the short term I would have a moan on their social media and post pictures of the corrosion. That may be enough to escalate your issue to someone more helpful.

System

dovski wrote: »

Thanks, I have owned a new 916, a new 748sp and a used hodgson 996. Absolutely no issues, I have parked and sorned the Supersport now until I find a resolution and have bought a 1299 Panigale S to replace it. I love bikes and have way too much mechanical sympathy to be accused of simply neglect being the cause for such rapid deterioration, thanks for the replies.

Now you're just trying to make me jealous

walwyn1978

scoot65 wrote: »

I've been riding Vespas and Lambrettas for the last 39 years. Currently have two Lambrettas (GP and TV/GT) and a Vespa GTS.

Still get a buzz attending the various scooter rallies held up and down the country throughout the year .....

Some crackers there.

scoot65

walwyn1978 wrote: »

Some crackers there.

Thanks mate!

dovski

Simonr66 wrote: »

Now you're just trying to make me jealous

far from it, just to let the community know I'm not a simpleton..I did break my thumb riding a vespa when I was 14 lol...

dovski

Arklight wrote: »

I wouldn't take legal advice from the internet. If you want actual advice that isn't just opinion then go to the CAB, or see if you can get a free 30 minutes with a solicitor (though that free 30 minutes can lead to some very expensive minutes if you want them to carry on).

I am not sure if the law about new bikes is the same as cars, but in general UK statute says goods have to last a "reasonable" amount of time depending on what they cost, how you used them, and what they are supposed to do. You'll probably need an engineer's report at least.

You may be able to set about rejecting the bike. In the short term I would have a moan on their social media and post pictures of the corrosion. That may be enough to escalate your issue to someone more helpful.

Thanks, I have an inspection due on Tuesday so we'll see...