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Road Tax
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At the end of the day the costs of building and maintaining roads is higher than what we pay in road tax, so we can't really complain. (But of course we will anywayThe 1937 date was just when the system of using the tax exclusively for roads (in name anyway) was ended and when the money started going direct to the exchequer as it does now. The reason that "road tax" should be corrected is that it wrongly implies the money is a fund for building/maintaining roads which gives morons an excuse to have a go at cyclists because of course there is no VED applied to bikes as the bike doesn't emit any CO2.
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Why should anyone complain, or otherwise?At the end of the day the costs of building and maintaining roads is higher than what we pay in road tax, so we can't really complain. (But of course we will anyway
As already explained (ad nauseam), the two are not connected in any way shape or form.0 -
When people mention about cyclists not paying, i just provide them a link and say what about cars registered 2001 (ithink) to 31st March 2007 with CO2 below 100 paying £0.00 - they never have an answer though
My (petrol) car was registered in October 2015 and my VED is £0, so I think your dates may be a bit restrictive.0 -
The road tax program was actually effectively abolished in the 1920s as the road fund that the taxes went to was not really being used for road building (mostly just resurfacing) and was routinely robbed by other departments anyway. The 1937 date was just when the system of using the tax exclusively for roads (in name anyway) was ended and when the money started going direct to the exchequer as it does now. The reason that "road tax" should be corrected is that it wrongly implies the money is a fund for building/maintaining roads which gives morons an excuse to have a go at cyclists because of course there is no VED applied to bikes as the bike doesn't emit any CO2.
Taxes aren't named after what the collected funds are spent on though.
Inheritance tax, income tax, corporation tax, capital gains tax etc. Its usually named (in some way) after the cause of the tax.You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride0 -
unholyangel wrote: »Taxes aren't named after what the collected funds are spent on though.
Inheritance tax, income tax, corporation tax, capital gains tax etc. Its usually named (in some way) after the cause of the tax.
That's why it's not called road tax. It's Vehicle Excise Duty.0 -
That's why it's not called road tax. It's Vehicle Excise Duty.
Yes, but its still nothing to do with what it was spent on - which was my point. Thats why my post said that rather than saying it is road tax.
The gov actually refer to it as "vehicle tax" on their website You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride0 -
unholyangel wrote: »Yes, but its still nothing to do with what it was spent on - which was my point. Thats why my post said that rather than saying it is road tax.
The gov actually refer to it as "vehicle tax" on their website
When road tax (road fund) was setup it was designed for use on building roads, it was robbed by other departments hence the point that it was abolished in 1937 which was the point the law changed so that the money from motorists was no longer officially ring fenced for roads and started going to the government just like VAT, PAYE etc etc. Road tax is incorrect because it's not a tax on using the road, it's not a tax for road building, road repair etcSam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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At the end of the day the costs of building and maintaining roads is higher than what we pay in road tax, so we can't really complain. (But of course we will anyway
But Vehicle Tax is just one of the taxes paid by motorists. There's tax and duty on fuel, VAT on new vehicles, parts and repairs. IRC only about a third of motor taxes is reinvested in building and maintaining roads.When road tax (road fund) was setup it was designed for use on building roads, it was robbed by other departments hence the point that it was abolished in 1937 which was the point the law changed so that the money from motorists was no longer officially ring fenced for roads and started going to the government just like VAT, PAYE etc etc. Road tax is incorrect because it's not a tax on using the road, it's not a tax for road building, road repair etc
However that is due to change next year when VED is again going to ringfenced and will go into a new Roads Fund.
http://www.infrastructure-intelligence.com/article/jul-2015/budget-vehicle-tax-all-be-spent-roads-20200 -
When road tax (road fund) was setup it was designed for use on building roads, it was robbed by other departments hence the point that it was abolished in 1937 which was the point the law changed so that the money from motorists was no longer officially ring fenced for roads and started going to the government just like VAT, PAYE etc etc. Road tax is incorrect because it's not a tax on using the road, it's not a tax for road building, road repair etc
Technically, it is - but only for registered vehicles that aren't exempt. Just as some other taxes are selective rather than blanket.You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride0 -
Duty.
The Cambridge Dictionary.
" duty, a TAX paid to the government "0
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