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Parking permits penalising pollutants

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  • DoaM
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    ...in a borough where the average flat costs £400k, the average property of all types £545k, and the average semi £670k.

    Is that the "if you can afford to live there, you can afford to pay it" comment? ;):D
  • AdrianC
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    DoaM wrote: »
    Is that the "if you can afford to live there, you can afford to pay it" comment? ;):D
    I leave interpretation in the eye of the reader.

    I didn't even mention the excellent public transport availability, nor all the "car club" short-term-rental locations.
  • DoaM
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    I leave interpretation in the eye of the reader.

    Translation - yes, you're right but I don't want to admit it. ;)

    Is there any other reason than this for the final line of that post? For a post about parking, vehicle emissions and vehicle values, a comment about house prices is otherwise irrelevant. :)
  • AdrianC
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    DoaM wrote: »
    Is there any other reason than this for the final line of that post? For a post about parking, vehicle emissions and vehicle values, a comment about house prices is otherwise irrelevant. :)
    Do you disagree that it provides some context for...
    Markocam wrote: »
    Yes, I may be able to afford the extra charges, but many will find it compromises their car ownership. Hybrid and Electric cars are out of many people's price bracket
    ...
    Anyway, my point was more about penalising the few. An appropriate levy on all diesel and petrol vehicle owners rather than the few would be fairer perhaps.
  • DoaM
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    Tenuous ... and smacks of "green-eyed monster" syndrome. :)
  • AdrianC
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    Why on earth would I be jealous of anybody daft enough to live in London? I escaped the M25 for civilisation some years ago...
  • Frozen_up_north
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    The next step is to follow Japan and ban on-street parking overnight... you also need to provide evidence of having somewhere to park before purchasing a vehicle in some cities. Solves the impossible problem of trying to provide thousands of charging points for electric cars too.

    Some info here:
    https://www.reinventingparking.org/2014/06/japans-proof-of-parking-rule-has.html?m=1
  • Nasqueron
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    In my (limited) experience when councils have decided to do something like this, the "consultation" is little more than a box ticking exercise. Birmingham did it with the 20mph zones, the letter/pack they sent us about whether to implement it was emblazoned with the logos of the "20 is plenty" charity on the same line as the council logo - it was obvious they had already decided to do it. They did the same with the new bike lanes into the city, I did the feedback on that and suggested a few ways to make it less anti-car to reduce the animosity towards cyclists and they seem to have just stuck with their original plan anyway

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

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