Droputs with multiple wifi access points -- RADIUS server?

that

arciere wrote: »

You get the same IP address until your lease expires, as I explained earlier. Can you imagine in a corporate environment (where you don't use mesh) getting a different IP address every time you walk through the office?

[STRIKE]Depends on the age of the equipment. Some devices put you on a new ip range. If you have the latest devices with multiple radios and mimo than that is great[/STRIKE]

arciere wrote: »

All the Ubiquiti systems I have installed were never mesh (you can't use mesh in a corporate building!). And if you have a choice, AVOID mesh as it's pretty much never the best solution (although probably the easiest to set up).

It is not corporate building, it is a stone walled house, and the easiest setup method will keep friends happy

arciere

that wrote: »

Depends on the age of the equipment. Some devices put you on a new ip range. If you have the latest devices with multiple radios and mimo than that is great

Now I have the suspicion the you are trolling...what has age got to do?!? Did you even read what I wrote? What devices put you on a new ip range? Do you even know what an ip range is? Do you actually know what a WAP is and what a DHCP server is? Do you know what MIMO is?

that wrote: »

It is not corporate building, it is a stone walled house, and the easiest setup method will keep friends happy

It doesn't matter, your statement is simply false and misleading, even for a stone walled house IPs don't change. And mesh doesn't have anything to do with it (if you have problems with the WiFi signal travelling through your walls, a mesh system will only make you waste money, rather than keep your friends happy).

I appreciate that this is a public forum, but you shouldn't keep giving false information.

debitcardmayhem

that wrote: »

experience

Come up with a better idea

OK where does the new "IP Range", see below, come from?

that wrote: »

Depends on the age of the equipment. Some devices put you on a new ip range. If you have the latest devices with multiple radios and mimo than that is great


It is not corporate building, it is a stone walled house, and the easiest setup method will keep friends happy

Aaaah the wall between the US and Mexico (probably won't be Stone built) so it will keep friends happy because it won't block wifi

arciere wrote: »

Now I have the suspicion the you are trolling...what has age got to do?!? Did you even read what I wrote? What devices put you on a new ip range? Do you even know what an ip range is? Do you actually know what a WAP is and what a DHCP server is? Do you know what MIMO is?


It doesn't matter, your statement is simply false and misleading, even for a stone walled house IPs don't change. And mesh doesn't have anything to do with it (if you have problems with the WiFi signal travelling through your walls, a mesh system will only make you waste money, rather than keep your friends happy).

I appreciate that this is a public forum, but you shouldn't keep giving false information.

Thank you arciere for explaining earlier, and again now, however it could be fake news coming over the Trump Wall

In my experience yours[That] is seriously lacking

esuhl

grumpycrab wrote: »

I'd really advise binning the tp-link access points and powerline adapters. Your "big house" friends would be much better off (well, they can afford Sky Q with a decent mesh kit.

The Powerline adaptor also provides Ethernet to a PC, so I'd keep that in preference to wifi. The problem with mesh is the sheer number of APs that will be needed. :-/ But yes, they can probably afford it.

Two of the APs are outside the house, with dead zones between other APs, so I guess it would be better to keep using the TP-Links there and just mesh in the house...?

grumpycrab wrote: »

I was going to suggest expanding the Sky Q mesh kit and getting Sky to set it all up but the Q hub sounds a bit poor (and Sky support poor?) so I'd suggest a decent non-Sky mesh kit - plug it into the Sky hub and switch the hub's wifi off.

Would the non-Sky mesh work with the existing Sky mesh?

Also, the SkyQ APs only use 5GHz wifi. Is there an option to use 2.4GHz with mesh (for better range)? Would you know how the SkyQ network settings are modified? Is it done via the TV interface...? (I don't have Sky TV myself!)

esuhl

arciere wrote: »

All the Ubiquiti systems I have installed were never mesh (you can't use mesh in a corporate building!). And if you have a choice, AVOID mesh as it's pretty much never the best solution (although probably the easiest to set up).

Thanks. I'll have another look at those kind of systems again.

Why is mesh rarely the best solution? Is it latency, or cost of additional APs...?

And how to corporate networks cope with wifi-handoffs and dropouts? Do they have some kind of network management that works like the Ubiquiti systems you mention?

esuhl

Oh, BTW, I don't think the iPhone user is using any "real time" audio/video apps like Skype. Just web browsing, shopping, social media, etc. So... I'm surprised that she's noticing problems. :-/

arciere

that wrote: »

Depends on the age of the equipment. Some devices put you on a new ip range. If you have the latest devices with multiple radios and mimo than that is great


It is not corporate building, it is a stone walled house, and the easiest setup method will keep friends happy

esuhl wrote: »

Thanks. I'll have another look at those kind of systems again.

Why is mesh rarely the best solution? Is it latency, or cost of additional APs...?

And how to corporate networks cope with wifi-handoffs and dropouts? Do they have some kind of network management that works like the Ubiquiti systems you mention?

The idea behind a mesh topology (WiFi) is that you can connect many nodes with few wired connections, because each node 'talks' to each other wirelessly. This is great because it's a centralised system and each device knows what's going on, the problem is that the original WiFi signal from your router gets repeated wirelessly rather than through wires.

If the house is big or difficult to work in, in terms of WiFi signal propagation, it means that more nodes are required to reach the edges of the house (or other places difficult to reach), therefore the quality of the signal you get in those areas becomes degraded.
With a traditional WiFi system, you get the best signal quality at every node because they are all connected to the main network, rather than receive a repeated signal from another device. In this "category", centralised systems offer more reliability and flexibility, opposed to standalone access points as you have now.

Obviously, the biggest downside of traditional WiFi is that you need to have wired connections to each node, but you can't beat its performance.

that

Sorry guys, my brain and common sense were somewhere else, and you will get the same assigned ip.

I have struck of the offending posts

esuhl

I was just browsing through the settings on my Android phone, and found this option:

Always allow Wi-Fi Roam Scans:
Allow/Disallow Wi-Fi Roam Scans based on the amount of data traffic present at the interface

Would this improve performance when moving between wi-fi APs? Are there any downsides? I presume there must be, as it's disabled by default.

I had a quick google, but couldn't find anything particularly definitive. :-/ I wonder if there's a similar option for the iPhone...?

arciere

esuhl wrote: »

I was just browsing through the settings on my Android phone, and found this option:

Would this improve performance when moving between wi-fi APs? Are there any downsides? I presume there must be, as it's disabled by default.

I had a quick google, but couldn't find anything particularly definitive. :-/ I wonder if there's a similar option for the iPhone...?

To be honest, I never used (or even heard of) that option, but yes, that could help with roaming issues (if it is what I think it is). Downsides? Maybe battery? I don't know, but I guess that continuously scanning for a better network has an impact on it.
But then again, if you have a non-centralised system, it's up to each device to decide where and how to roam between two different access points. What works for one device may not work for another.
It's worth a try though.