Extend the uncertainty?

AG47

By he sound of everybody’s opinions there is no winning outcome.

Whatever happens we lose and property prices will tumble?

phillw

AG47 wrote: »

Whatever happens we lose and property prices will tumble?

We all lose & property prices keep going up.

AG47

phillw wrote: »

Unless something significant happens then we will leave with no deal on the 29th.

What do you think will change?

One way or another they will get some more time, you'll see.

The no deal will happen, but it will be in about 2 months time.

We are in for every hard times for the UK.

This will be the start of hard times, and will last for several years.

The good news is that hard times create hard men. And hard men create soft times. Soft times create soft men, soft men create hard times and the cycle repeats.

We have all grown up in soft times, that our grandfathers created who were hard men from hard times.

Nasqueron

Major trade deals between the likes of the EU and Canada, Japan or South Korea took 7 years. Not a chance in hell you'll get a quick trade deal with the EU, let alone the rest of the world. If we crash out on WTO everyone will know we are desperate and they have all the cards.


Trump doesn't do deals, he does what he sees as wins and the other side loses hence why he has so many failures and bankruptcies, hence why he only got a start in business thanks to both his father's money and his father being a guarantor



Best thing now would be to drop May's deal and go for EEA membership (something Farage advocated before the vote, before the hard liners started going for no deal).


If no deal was so great, why did Mogg move his investment firm to Dublin to stay inside the EU?

triathlon

AG47 wrote: »

Surely it would be better to pull the plaster off and have short pain then get on with healing. No deal on the 29th then move on new trade deals and heal nd rebuild.

Pulling it off slowly and still having the same pain at the end is far worse.

They will never vote for Mays deal, so why keep flogging a dead horse, it's just prolonging the pain and making things worse, property was going to fall only 30% but now it could be a larger crash and last for much longer, maybe several years

I am quite happy to admit defeat with Brexit even though I know it's wrong for the UK. But we have to get this right and a no deal would be severe on us. Within months inflation will rise and I cannot see how interest rates could not rise, jobs will be lost and the GDP will plummet. You guys hoping for house prices to plummet want to be careful what you wish for, if you consider yourself poor and non achieving now imagine what things could be like for you in one years time.
We must get this right or everyone will suffer, falling house prices as a way to a better life is not as easy as some of you seem to think it is, if it was every government would cause a crash

ess0two

AG47 wrote: »

By he sound of everybody’s opinions there is no winning outcome.

Whatever happens we lose and property prices will tumble?

You seem to be fixated on prices will tumble?

Malthusian

AG47 wrote: »

I once read Donald Trumps book and although I don’t like him, his negotiating skills are legendary.

Wonder how he's lost so much of his daddy's inheritance then.

Unfortunately May doesn't have the option of "walk away because my billion-dollar inheritance means it doesn't actually matter whether I make a good deal, bad deal or no deal".

lisyloo

AG47 wrote: »

One way or another they will get some more time, you'll see.

The no deal will happen, but it will be in about 2 months time.

We are in for every hard times for the UK.

This will be the start of hard times, and will last for several years.

The good news is that hard times create hard men. And hard men create soft times. Soft times create soft men, soft men create hard times and the cycle repeats.

We have all grown up in soft times, that our grandfathers created who were hard men from hard times.

You’re forgetting about 52% of the population.
Women work these days, often even when they have small children.

lisyloo

AG47 wrote: »

Surely it would be better to pull the plaster off and have short pain then get on with healing. No deal on the 29th then move on new trade deals and heal nd rebuild.

Pulling it off slowly and still having the same pain at the end is far worse.

They will never vote for Mays deal, so why keep flogging a dead horse, it's just prolonging the pain and making things worse, property was going to fall only 30% but now it could be a larger crash and last for much longer, maybe several years

I don’t think no deal will happen.
Why?
Because May doesn’t want it, parliament don’t want it and the EU don’t want it.
How were going to get out of it I don’t know.
BINO is my guess.

Herzlos

I agree we need to just come to a decision and get on with it. The uncertainty is killing us more than any bad deal would. I've reached the point where I'm happy to just leave and then negotiate a re-entry, because then at least something would be happening.

AG47 wrote: »

I once read Donald Trumps book and although I don’t like him, his negotiating skills are legendary. He just walks away.

He negotiates like a toddler - flatter him and you can get anything. He's mostly a shouty moron who'll change his mind and backtrack on things.


Because he's a scammer, he thinks all deals result in someone being scammed and if it's not the other side it must be him. Therefor it's a bad deal for him if he's not ripping someone off.


He's got form for agreeing to something and then walking away, forcing underdogs to sue him to get their money back, and quite often pays people off to make it go away.


He'd only be able to negotiate the worst of possible Brexits. I wouldn't trust the man to negotiate a pizza delivery.