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Coupon-mad

So i wanted to know wether i should mention not complying to Pofa paragraph 13,14 because they have submitted it all in there evidence pack with a signed statement saying that it was sent. Liars

WOW.

As Edna said, please show us that evidence pack...

Dane19

D_P_Dance wrote: »

I received a parking notice from Parking Eye for staying in a car park without paying,I truly did not see the signs,

Was it a cloudy day?

All the PE signs that I have come across fail imo to be able to form a contract. They are either too high, the font is too small, or they are too wordy, or all of the above, read this thread and complain to your MP.

Cant remember what kind of day it was but when i went back to take pics they were exactly as you mentioned too high etc, even the pics in their evidence pack shows it.

MistyZ wrote: »

Surely the contract was between the Lease company and the hirer?

Are you sure that all the docs. listed in POFA are in their evidence:

(a)a statement signed by or on behalf of the vehicle-hire firm to the effect that at the material time the vehicle was hired to a named person under a hire agreement;

(b)a copy of the hire agreement; and

(c)a copy of a statement of liability signed by the hirer under that hire agreement.

They've lied about sending them?! The swine! Strongly refute that - it shouldn't take many words, just well-chosen ones. And the relevant POFA sections are not too challenging to read when searching for more non-compliance.

One more thought .... I was under the impression that the hire companies did not send the docs. to PPCs. Yet obviously P.E. got hold of something somehow. Timing does matter so why not ask the hire co. when they sent the docs to P.E.? Do it by email so as to directly quote if their reply helps.

Because im newbie I cant upload anything for you to see so let me try to explain:
a) Signed stateman is dated 12 days after the PCN issue date.
b) & c) Both agreement & liability statement are on one document

Dane19

Edna_Basher wrote: »

Gosh, did ParkingEye really say that? It would be helpful if you could set out word-for-word exactly what ParkingEye wrote about this in the Evidence Pack and where it was written (e.g. was it included in Section B (Case Summary)?).

Having read scores of PE evidence packs for hire vehicles I've never seen them make such a claim.

In cases where the lease company do provide ParkingEye with documents, copies of these are usually included in Section E of the Evidence Pack (Original Representation / Notice of Rejection) rather than in Section C (Parking Charge Notice / Notice of the Operative). If the hire documents had been sent with the PCN then the logical place for them would be under Section C not Section E.

After seeing how shocked you were i looked again at the evidece pack to make sure i was seeing what i was saying, so in 1 of the pages theres a box with
I confirm that the Appellant has been sent copies of all evidence in accordance with current POPLA requirements and this is signed, so now im thinking could this be talking about the evidence pack ? but i havnt recieved anything from them besides the PCN.
The document provided by the lease company are in section D Registered Keeper Details ▪ Liability Trail.

Dane19

Coupon-mad wrote: »

WOW.

As Edna said, please show us that evidence pack...

it will make it esier for me aswell but how do i do that? dosent allow me to upload anything.

KeithP

Upload it to your favourite image hosting site, or dropbox, or somewhere else, and then post the link here.

Before submitting your reply, 'kill' the link. Often just changing http to hxxp is enough.

Dane19

KeithP wrote: »

Upload it to your favourite image hosting site, or dropbox, or somewhere else, and then post the link here.

Before submitting your reply, 'kill' the link. Often just changing http to hxxp is enough.

Testing let me know if i have done it right.

[IMG]hxxp://i68.tinypic.com/2cz35f6.png[/IMG]

This is a letter of authority, the blackening is done by them.

MistyZ

I can access it.

Dane19

I have not uploaded the whole pack because lots of pics and other info FAQ etc

[IMG]hxxp://i63.tinypic.com/3013iag.jpg[/IMG]. P1
[IMG]hxxp://i67.tinypic.com/j7zqyt.jpg[/IMG]. P2
[IMG]hxxp://i64.tinypic.com/2uhn2qh.png[/IMG] p3


[IMG]hxxp://i64.tinypic.com/2w7mnfq.jpg[/IMG]. Hire agreement

[IMG]hxxp://i66.tinypic.com/15ib5gh.png[/IMG]. Entrance sign
[IMG]hxxp://i68.tinypic.com/10p7d43.png[/IMG]. Car park sign
[IMG]hxxp://i65.tinypic.com/ifqr5t.png[/IMG]. Terms and conditions sign
[IMG]hxxp://i68.tinypic.com/w9wndu.png[/IMG]. Sign type
[IMG]hxxp://i68.tinypic.com/2qkt4k0.png[/IMG]. Site overview

There are lots of images in the packsome are close up but in non of then can you read the small print,
In some parts of the car park there are no signs or they are very far apart.

Le_Kirk

Your links made live: -
http://i63.tinypic.com/3013iag.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/j7zqyt.jpg
http://i64.tinypic.com/2uhn2qh.png

http://i64.tinypic.com/2w7mnfq.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/15ib5gh.png
http://i68.tinypic.com/10p7d43.png
http://i65.tinypic.com/ifqr5t.png
http://i68.tinypic.com/w9wndu.png
http://i68.tinypic.com/2qkt4k0.png

Dane19

So far all the appeals iv read regarding lease cars have won using the argument of non compliance of Notice to Hirer, the operator did not send them nor submitted them as evidence, but in my case they hav submitted these documents in the evidence pack

So my question is where do I stand in this scenario?

Im drafting a rebuttal I have 3 days left so an advise please?