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Did you know... You could be fined for indirectly fly tipping?

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  • snowcat75
    snowcat75 Posts: 2,283 Forumite
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    Nick_C wrote: »
    Only for waste produced by businesses.

    Householders must check that anyone who takes waste from their premises is a Licensed Waste Carrier. Householders in England can check this on line using the Environment Agency register.

    https://environment.data.gov.uk/public-register/view/search-waste-carriers-brokers

    This includes waste produced by and transported by people working at your home, including builders, gardeners, plumbers, handymen, etc

    Waste Transfer Notes must be produced by businesses passing their commercial waste to a licensed waste carrier.

    Most of this waste being dumped is however from builders, or gardens Both are business and should be able to produce a DOC if requested by the householder.

    75% of the time stuff tipped has links back to the household, bank statements letters etc, last lot I had tipped was a builder and the idots had left there personalised T shirts in them, A quick phone call and the threat of me dumping the lot back in there garden got it shifted.... Council and EA are generally toothless.
  • Fire_Fox
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    edited 22 February 2019 at 10:39PM
    Our district council actively encourages city centre residents to fly tip. They are so unhelpful/ obstructive that even I have resorted to bending or breaking the rules (?law).

    Apartment blocks old and new are charged for communal refuse dumpsters AND for communal recycling bins. Many long leases only allow freeholders to charge leaseholders for repairs/ maintenance/ like-for-like replacement, not upgrading facilities or new services. So some city centre blocks have no provision or insufficient provision for waste management.

    Furthermore our council's rules governing collection of old furniture or old electrical appliances are unworkable for some city centre properties. Additionally for several years the council also removed the only nearby short stay parking bays, so vehicles collecting such items would have to be parked illegally. :wall:

    Upshot being that dustbin bags periodically accumulate into a rat infested midden, old furniture is dumped behind the blocks. :(
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  • sevenhills
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    snowcat75 wrote: »
    Most of this waste being dumped is however from builders, or gardens Both are business and should be able to produce a DOC if requested by the householder.


    That may well be right, there are lots of people taking small loads for £25 to the tip in their cars.
    I have taken things to the tip for my sister, she gave me £30, its difficult to regulate without flytipping.
  • bigisi wrote: »
    What is it with Newbies and creating pointless polls?


    I wasn't fully aware of this law, so going forward I'll make sure I use a skip and/or the public tip.
  • Did you know, water is WET! :D
  • sevenhills
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    Nick_C wrote: »
    The cost of the license is irrelevant. Licensed waste carriers are paying more than £100 a tonne to dispose of your waste at a licenced facility. The cowboys are dumping it in fields, lay-bys, housing estates etc.


    Unless its hardcore, you can get a lot of waste in a tonne. How much would a sofa weigh or some garden rubbish or the waste in the back of a Transit/Vivaro van?

    Perhaps they have a minimum charge, I assume they do weigh your vehicle with and without the waste.
  • Nick_C
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    Unless its hardcore, you can get a lot of waste in a tonne. How much would a sofa weigh or some garden rubbish or the waste in the back of a Transit/Vivaro van?

    Perhaps they have a minimum charge, I assume they do weigh your vehicle with and without the waste.

    Hardcore is actually cheap to dispose of. Most of the cost of disposing of waste is landfill tax. The standard rate of landfill tax is approx £89 a tonne. Landfill tax on inert waste is less than £3 a tonne. And of course if the waste is separated and can be recycled, it can even be sold.
  • Davesnave
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    sevenhills wrote: »
    Unless its hardcore, you can get a lot of waste in a tonne. How much would a sofa weigh or some garden rubbish or the waste in the back of a Transit/Vivaro van?

    Perhaps they have a minimum charge, I assume they do weigh your vehicle with and without the waste.
    There's a minimum charge of £100 where I am for 'commercial waste.' I know because I asked about disposal of loft insulation.


    Instead, I stuck it on Freecycle and a couple of renters with tight landlords had it.
  • sevenhills
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    There's a minimum charge of £100 where I am for 'commercial waste.' I know because I asked about disposal of loft insulation.

    Instead, I stuck it on Freecycle and a couple of renters with tight landlords had it.


    Councils charging for more waste has resulted in less waste and has been good, lots of people giving things away instead of dumping.
    I can understand how a £100 minimum would make the small waste carriers unviable.
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