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also, it depends what they did with all the money flowing into their savings accounts.whatleytom87 said:
There's an awful lot of potential in having 1.5m current account customers. I would guess the next stage is attempting to convert those current accounts into prime relationships, at which point the income generating products can be rolled out. My understanding is that the UK market is a proving ground for rolling out the same tech/proposition to a whole batch of other worldwide territories.RG2015 said:
Regarding Chase, I cannot see how they will generate enough income to cover the cost of these incentives. And this is before covering their running costs.whatleytom87 said:At the end of the day, all of these mechanisms are designed in some way to reduce the overall payable rate for the bank whilst still appealing to a certain segment of customers.
As you rightly point out, none of them are perfect so to speak, and what is an issue for one person is definitely not for another.
Will be interesting to watch Chase pan out. Obviously Marcus did similar, but with a much less attractive offer, when the market at the time was much closer. Chase have gone all out to acquire a huge amount of current account volume at massive cost, not just the savings rate but the refer a friend incentive, cashback, near perfect exchange rate and round up account. It won't last, and will be interesting to watch them wind it back in.
They took over 500k customers in the 60 days to the end of May which was just over £8bn, with the ringfence limit of £25bn you'd imagine at that run rate they're going to maintain the offers until around September at which point it's probably going to be significantly less attractive.
If they transferred it to the States, then the way the GBP has fallen against the USD means they will be well in profit, even after paying us 1.5% interest.0 -
n3ophyte, you may want to blank out your name more thoroughly on your screen snip, it's still legible.
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As they are below the threshold for being within the ringfencing rules in the UK, they can use it as cheap capital for the investment bank business. Borrow at 1.5%, ship to the US and use to fund investments which hopefully generate bigger returns for the bank.Olinda99 said:
also, it depends what they did with all the money flowing into their savings accounts.whatleytom87 said:
There's an awful lot of potential in having 1.5m current account customers. I would guess the next stage is attempting to convert those current accounts into prime relationships, at which point the income generating products can be rolled out. My understanding is that the UK market is a proving ground for rolling out the same tech/proposition to a whole batch of other worldwide territories.RG2015 said:
Regarding Chase, I cannot see how they will generate enough income to cover the cost of these incentives. And this is before covering their running costs.whatleytom87 said:At the end of the day, all of these mechanisms are designed in some way to reduce the overall payable rate for the bank whilst still appealing to a certain segment of customers.
As you rightly point out, none of them are perfect so to speak, and what is an issue for one person is definitely not for another.
Will be interesting to watch Chase pan out. Obviously Marcus did similar, but with a much less attractive offer, when the market at the time was much closer. Chase have gone all out to acquire a huge amount of current account volume at massive cost, not just the savings rate but the refer a friend incentive, cashback, near perfect exchange rate and round up account. It won't last, and will be interesting to watch them wind it back in.
They took over 500k customers in the 60 days to the end of May which was just over £8bn, with the ringfence limit of £25bn you'd imagine at that run rate they're going to maintain the offers until around September at which point it's probably going to be significantly less attractive.
If they transferred it to the States, then the way the GBP has fallen against the USD means they will be well in profit, even after paying us 1.5% interest.
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It’s got the same person running both nutmeg and the UK Consumer business nown3ophyte said:
… and so it begins!whatleytom87 said:There's an awful lot of potential in having 1.5m current account customers. I would guess the next stage is attempting to convert those current accounts into prime relationships, at which point the income generating products can be rolled out… snip
https://www.altfi.com/article/9479_nutmeg-ceo-steps-down-following-sale-to-jp-morgan
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In the App-only space they had dropped behind Atom’s 1.35% and this aligns them as they also did with the 1-year fix at 2.60% to match Atom rateThumbs_Up said:Regarding Tandem. What is the tactics at play if I can call it that.
Surely they won’t get inflows of new money will they? It is just a patsy for their apathy savers.
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… and so it begins😄whatleytom87 said:There's an awful lot of potential in having 1.5m current account customers. I would guess the next stage is attempting to convert those current accounts into prime relationships, at which point the income generating products can be rolled out.
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That's no different in principle to other banks advertising their investment optionsn3ophyte said:
… and so it begins😄whatleytom87 said:There's an awful lot of potential in having 1.5m current account customers. I would guess the next stage is attempting to convert those current accounts into prime relationships, at which point the income generating products can be rolled out.
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Thanks for the that. I've included in ToTP (page 609)... However, 1.35%s will drop off in the next edict when I cut it back to top 10 ish.WillowLea1962 said:Tandem instant access saver app now showing 1.35% AER1 -
I just opened an Atom account and the process was seamless. The security checks were not an issue, just be patient when setting up the photo ID.
I transferred funds from my Halifax current account, no issues at all. The funds appeared in my Atom account immediately.
So far so good. I'll hopefully have an update once I get my first interest payment in.1 -
ToTP Note bottom 6 will likely drop off next iteration.
OK rate tappers... Easy(ish) Access, Top 10(ish) Of The Pots.. BoE base rate +0.25 =1.25% (16/06)
Updated at 13/07/2022.. c.10.00 - Starter for 10; not comprehensive, DYOR.Latest changes in bold.
Links added for all accounts. Thanks for all contributions.
Bracketed dates = date rate added/amended here.
1 Virgin Money 1.56% (03/06)c/w M plus c.a. £25k max EASY ACCESS SAVINGS | Virgin Money UK2 Zopa Smart Saver(App only) - £50k max for new applicants. Improved rates(11/07) Access 1.5% Boosted 7day notice 1.55%. 31day 1.65%; 95day 1.85% Smarter Savings built for real life - Zopahgt
3 Chase: Saver 1.50% (28/03) c/w c.a. App only Home | Chase UK4 Cynergy EA; 1.46% inc 1yr bonus (07/07) Cynergy Bank thnx whatleytom87
5 Al Rayan Everyday Saver iss 2. 1.45% (29/06) App onlyish. Everyday Saver (Issue 2) | Islamic banking | Sharia compliant & ethical (alrayanbank.co.uk)
6= Gatehouse Easy Access 1.40% (Shariah) 28/06 £1k initial. Easy access account | Gatehouse Bank | Gatehouse Bank plc
6= Secure Trust Bank Access ac1.40% 02/07) £1k min
https://www.securetrustbank.com/savings/access-accounts/access-account6= Shawbrook E. A. 1.4% (06/07) £1k min £85K max (solo). Easy Access Savings Accounts | Shawbrook Bank thnx @cloud_dog
6= Sainsbury Defined Access 1.4% >£1k (24/06) 3 w/ds only before rate drop to 0.80%. Defined Access Saver with Sainsbury's Bank (sainsburysbank.co.uk)
6= Nationwide Triple Access 1.4%(08/07) 3w/d drop to 0.1%)1 Year Triple Access Online Saver | Nationwide thnx @janusdesign
6= Aldermore Double Access 1.4% (17/06); EA 1.35% new & existing acs; Personal Savings Accounts - Aldermore Bank
6= Principality BS Double Access 1.4% (23/06) Online Double Access | Online Double Access (principality.co.uk)13 Tesco Internet Saver 1.38% inc bonus (12/07) Savings Comparison Tool (tescobank.com) thnx @deinoflex
14 Ford Money 1.37% (13/07) Flexible Savings Account - Easy access savings | Ford MoneySection62
15 Skipton Triple Access Saver Iss5; 1.36% wef 27/06 (19/06) Note: £5k min balance
Easy Access Savings - Skipton Building Society
16= Atom (App only) Instant Saver 1.35% (17/06): https://www.atombank.co.uk/instant-saver16= Tandem Iasa 1.35% App only A greener way to save for the future (tandem.co.uk) thnx@WillowLea1962
17 Yorkshire BS **Tiered** Internet Saver Plus iss 11 1.33% (1.1%<£10k 1.38%>£50k) (03/06) View our Easy Access Savings Accounts | Savings | YBS
See prior ToTPs for detail on recent 'drop offs...' last posts, pages 612/605/595.
Cov BS, Cynergy, RCI, Marcus/Saga, Paragon, Ford Money, Investec.
Check terms for yourself - DYOR.
Note: These rates may, or may not be applied to existing accounts, plse check.
Also small balance, high rate: VM 2.0% £1k limit, Nationwide FlexDirect 5% on £1.5k (1st year only) Others of note?
Also see Regular Savings Accounts: The Best Currently Available List! — MoneySavingExpert Forum
And Cash ISAs: The Best Currently Available List — MoneySavingExpert Forum7
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