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They are definitely better than the lotterypatpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
PB is not for me, I prefer to know exactly how my cash is going to perform, however it's a good product for those who likes the element of surprise or gambling without any capital loss. 3 -
Can I just clarify, so if I open an Edge account for the saver, if I just don't add any DD's, have any bills out or use the card for cashback, the £3 charge just won't apply but I'll still have access to the saver?1
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Not a no-brainer for basic rate taxpayers, if you have average luck. Based on a 10,000 simulation Monte Carlo analysis using September's prizes, median annual returns for a full holding would be 4.05% (equivalent to 5.06% taxed at BR), but lower for smaller holdings. Even with a full holding, 25% of people would get less than 3.4% (equivalent to 4.25%). I'll be sticking with Tandem.patpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
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Getting your fiat money stake back with no returns is really a disguised form of capital loss. But its a good illusion that does manage to convince many that a product is offering something without downside.Rheumatoid said:
Its not really gambling if you always get your stake backZopa_Trooper said:
Gambling you mean? Why not stick the lot on black or red at a casino. Almost a 50/50 chance.patpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?1 -
Courtesy of google:-Zopa_Trooper said:
Gambling you mean? Why not stick the lot on black or red at a casino. Almost a 50/50 chance.patpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?The British pound has lost 97% its value since 1956A pound today only buys 3.131% of what it could buy back then. The inflation rate in 1956 was 5.10%.
£100 in 1956 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £3,193.71 today
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This gentlemen and ladies, is what fiat money is about. That's why everyone has to be given fiat (forced command) to hold and use it.chris_the_bee said:
Courtesy of google:-Zopa_Trooper said:
Gambling you mean? Why not stick the lot on black or red at a casino. Almost a 50/50 chance.patpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?The British pound has lost 97% its value since 1956A pound today only buys 3.131% of what it could buy back then. The inflation rate in 1956 was 5.10%.
£100 in 1956 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £3,193.71 today0 -
The trick would have been to invest that pound in something that kept pace with inflation (though this is not the thread for considering those options). Even moving it between savings accounts would have allowed it to be worth a lot more than £1 today, but certainly a lot less than £3.2k.chris_the_bee said:
Courtesy of google:-Zopa_Trooper said:
Gambling you mean? Why not stick the lot on black or red at a casino. Almost a 50/50 chance.patpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?The British pound has lost 97% its value since 1956A pound today only buys 3.131% of what it could buy back then. The inflation rate in 1956 was 5.10%.
£100 in 1956 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £3,193.71 today
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Let's also not forget it's just a bit of fun for those people for whom £50K is a mere drop in the ocean.......there are plenty of wealthy people around who don't worry about wether they can get a decent return from their PBs.allegro120 said:
They are definitely better than the lotterypatpalloon said:
What about Premium Bonds?Zopa_Trooper said:If you're paying tax on your savings, ISA's are a no-brainer.
PB is not for me, I prefer to know exactly how my cash is going to perform, however it's a good product for those who likes the element of surprise or gambling without any capital loss.0 -
Zopa_Trooper said:
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?Your £1 would be worth £20.53 today according to this:https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator
Almost enough to buy a couple of pizzas.3 -
Surely you mean invest in a couple of pizzas... 😉boingy said:Zopa_Trooper said:
I've had a (singular) premium bond for 67 years (it was brought for me to celebrate my birth). Never won a penny. Wonder how much that £1 would be worth now?Your £1 would be worth £20.53 today according to this:https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/inflation-calculator
Almost enough to buy a couple of pizzas.0
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