My brother has been gifted a house

lincroft1710

Lifeischoas wrote: »

Sorry adrianC, I was distracted by some of the harsher comments. It would be a great solution to the problem, especially seen as I wasn't aware of the limit to 4 people owning a property.

But there isn't a problem. Your brother was gifted the farm, that was your grandmother's wish. You and your other siblings have no legal entitlement to any share of the capital or the rental income.

He now finds himself the owner of a farm with a pitiful rental income and no real hope of ever taking possession. I just pray for his sake it's a tenant repairing lease. Furthermore, if he is working, the rental income will be included in his total income for income tax purposes.

kazwookie

I suggest you get all this check full by the legal beings.

Check what is actually written down, was it correctly witnessed, check the lease of this farm in great detail.

I think from what you have written a lot of it is hear say.

getmore4less

Lifeischoas wrote: »

Comms69 I don't blame my brother for being gifted a farm at the age of 12, I'm not unjustified in feeling upset that they haven't been honest.

There is a lot more to this because minors cannot own property.

Lifeischoas

Getmore4less there's a lot more to this than I know, I'm not sure where one lie ends and the truth begins.

Slithery

Lifeischoas wrote: »

So this is going to be long, bare with me.
My paternal grandmother died 8 years ago leaving me and my eldest brother 10000 in trust (she was very old fashioned and we were the only grandchildren born in wedlock), she also left all grandchildren including my 3 half siblings and my brother and I 1000 each.
Fast forward 8 years and I have just found out that my grandmother on her deathbed (cancer) gifted my younger half brother a farm, with the reasoning being that she didn't want my mother to get hold of any money/land if me or my brother had been gifted the farm.
Now apart from the point that I feel incredibly betrayed by this being kept a secret and confused at why or even how my mum would of gotten hold of the land (she divorced my farther and never went after any money 17 years before this 'gift') I can't help but feel like I should try somehow to get this farm put into all 5 siblings names.

Why do you want to go against your grandmothers wishes? It seems like an awfully petty thing to do - or are you just after your share of the cash?

Without going into more details it's my understanding that she only gifted it this way because my step mother planted the seed that me and my brother would give any of this to my mum.
By the way I have never fallen out with my step mum (I thought we had a good relationship till this bombshell) and I got along well with my gran. No body knows that I have found out and the only people currently in on the secret of this gift are my dad, step mum and younger brother. All of the rest of her estate was split between my step mum and dad.
Should I look into legal advice or do I have no hope?

All irrelevant.

All that matters is the gifts that she decided to make and the will, I can't see anything here that looks out of place in the slightest.

Lifeischoas

Slithery, my grandmother's actual wish was for my father to own it with my younger brother but due to the solicitors not doing the right paper work it actually went solely to my brother. Having said that you are right and I shall leave everything well alone!

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I don't really see why you need to have a talk with your brother about this. It will only cause upset and sound like you are blaming him for either not divulging the bequest or for the fact your Gran made the unequal bequest.

I hear your hurt and that you feel it isn't fair on the rest of the relatives, but it was her choice and her right to do. To be honest, it doesn't sound like it would be much of a deal to justify the time, money and upset you'd all have to go through to force an equal benefit to all relatives. And without much chance of success.

It is unfair, and judgemental, but there's just nothing you can do about that. I'm sorry.

I had a shock when my father died (yep leaving me nothing), no one liked him and suddenly he wasn't the father I knew as a child. I'd realised some of it but thought it was me, then I realised he'd done quite a few nastyy things to a lot of people. Somehow that made my broken relationship with him worse. Because he definitely wasn't the person I thought of as a child. But I am glad I know a bit more of what was going on now, and just have to get over the revelations. He was still my father, and during my childhood was my hero. That doesn't change. The much overused statement that life is not fair, is unfortunately very true. All I can do is make sure I am fair in my dealings with people as much as I can be. And move on. I'm not going to let it change me or make me bitter.

getmore4less

Lifeischoas wrote: »

Sorry adrianC, I was distracted by some of the harsher comments. It would be a great solution to the problem, especially seen as I wasn't aware of the limit to 4 people owning a property.

4 is only the legal limit any number of people can have a beneficial interest.

All properties are effectively held as trusts.

Lifeischoas

deannatrois wrote: »

I don't really see why you need to have a talk with your brother about this. It will only cause upset and sound like you are blaming him for either not divulging the bequest or for the fact your Gran made the unequal bequest.

I hear your hurt and that you feel it isn't fair on the rest of the relatives, but it was her choice and her right to do. To be honest, it doesn't sound like it would be much of a deal to justify the time, money and upset you'd all have to go through to force an equal benefit to all relatives. And without much chance of success.

It is unfair, and judgemental, but there's just nothing you can do about that. I'm sorry.

I had a shock when my father died (yep leaving me nothing), no one liked him and suddenly he wasn't the father I knew as a child. I'd realised some of it but thought it was me, then I realised he'd done quite a few nastyy things to a lot of people. Somehow that made my broken relationship with him worse. Because he definitely wasn't the person I thought of as a child. But I am glad I know a bit more of what was going on now, and just have to get over the revelations. He was still my father, and during my childhood was my hero. That doesn't change. The much overused statement that life is not fair, is unfortunately very true. All I can do is make sure I am fair in my dealings with people as much as I can be. And move on. I'm not going to let it change me or make me bitter.

Thank you, I think I need to take a step back from my immediate emotional reaction.

parkrunner

Lifeischoas wrote: »

I actually would ReadingTim, I've never been after money from anyone but I have 2 younger siblings (12 and 8) who also don't get any share in this and I'm pretty annoyed for them as well as myself and my older brother. I'm deeply hurt by my family more than anything and very angry that no one decided to tell the truth.

Then disown them and move on with your life. If you don't do that then your life is going to go downhill fast with the hatred burning away inside you.