An Irish Family Post-Brexit in Northern Ireland

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OK, so I guess none of us really know what the fall-out from Brexit will be if it does happen, I want to be prepared as much as possible for the potential problems.

I am born and bred in Northern Ireland, I have a British passport. My partner (not married - yet!) is born and bred in Ireland, she is an Irish passport holder. We have a 17 month old son, born in Ireland with no records in the UK. My partner has no records in the UK.

I have bought a house in Northern Ireland, and we move in together as a family in mid-March i.e. my partner is permanently relocating to Northern Ireland with my son.

I am seeking advice on how best to establish an identity and paper trail for my partner and son in the UK. Our plan as a family is that we will be a single income household with my partner and son as my two dependants.

I want to get my partner set-up with a bank account or credit union account in the UK and in time, I want to add her to the deeds of the property etc. She can qualify for a British passport I believe as her own mother was born in London to English parents (i.e. her maternal side is all English) but I'm really not sure how to go about everything to make both her and my son legally eligible to remain in the UK. Is a quick marriage the only solution?

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  • Rasha
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    Hey,

    I appreciate that you're worried, but please try to sit back and relax...open a tab on your browser, google Irish citizens in the UK, or read up about CTA, or preferably look at the gov.uk website which should take all your anxiety away.

    Sorry, can't post links yet as I only registered to post this for you.

    Obviously when they arrive you should get her an appointment for an NI number, once you have proof of address for them, register them with a GP etc.

    Wish you guys all the best!
  • Tammykitty
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    No need to panic - Irish citizens are not treated as Foreign in the UK, and not just because of the EU. An Irish citizen has a right to remain in the UK regardless of Brexit


    Both your partner and child are entitled to British citizenship, and you don't need a passport to be a citizen, so no need to apply for the British passports unless you want too.


    There will be no issue living in NI with Irish passports (Political nightmare if they tried to stop it!)
  • Rasha
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    Exactly as Tammykitty wrote it down for you!

    Sorry, I should have wrote the same but was trying to reassure you as quickly as I could.
  • engineer_amy
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    Have a read through this.


    https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/services/your-rights/Brexit_en


    there are many scenarios laid out, one may fit your situation to give you some comfort. But all state that EU citizens will not be kicked out of the UK after brexit happens


    And as Tammykitty says, Ireland and UK have a special bond lol. The GFA gives us Norn Iron'ers some dual rights!
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  • niresearcher
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    Thanks everyone for the replies, much appreciated.

    I think my main concern is that there is no record of them in the UK yet until the move mid-March so I assume at that I'll just get the ball rolling at that point which is around two weeks before the proposed Brexit date.

    @Rasha "Obviously when they arrive you should get her an appointment for an NI number, once you have proof of address for them, register them with a GP etc."

    - I will look to register them with my own local GP practice. I'm not sure who to set up an appointment with re a National Insurance number?

    - Also re proof of address, does anyone have any tips in this regard - it's a new build property with everything in my name re mortgage, deeds etc so with no utility bills or the like in her name, how do I go about proving that my partner will be living at the property?
  • Slinky
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    - Also re proof of address, does anyone have any tips in this regard - it's a new build property with everything in my name re mortgage, deeds etc so with no utility bills or the like in her name, how do I go about proving that my partner will be living at the property?


    Get her registered on the electoral roll asap?


    https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote
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  • Rasha
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    The exact date of their arrival is not a big issue as you could see from the other poster's more detailed replies.

    Once they are here you can just put her name on your utility bills by calling the companies, shouldn't be a big problem. You might or might not need them to give their consent to be added through the phone.

    If it works the same way in NI as here in England they will need their passport and proof of address to be able to register with a GP. Just ask the receptionist what exactly will you need.
    Re NI number, as far as I remember she will physically need to be in the UK in order to book an appointment for it. Doesn't really want to post anything stupid or untrue so in case I'm mistaken, it's better if you make your own research about it.
    You will also need to provide her NI number and yours in case you wish to apply for child benefit later down the line. (Not sure if it's any different you being obviously a UK citizen.)

    Sorry, can't really check for any mistakes either spelling or information as it's a real pain replying from my phone.
  • LilElvis
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    When my goddaughter moved to the UK we prioritised the NI number. This, in conjunction with swapping her Aussie driving licence, was enough proof of address for both the GP and opening a bank account.
  • *max*
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    I have lived and worked in the UK for over 17 years, I have an NI number of course. I just happen to have been born in France. So I wouldn't put any weight on the "having an NI number is all you need" thing. Nobody knows what's gonna happen. Even the people who are supposed to make it happen don't.
  • engineer_amy
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    For the NI number, contact a local jobs and benefits office. They will set up an appointment for when your partner is in the country. From setting up appointments for this for some of our employees, it is a relatively quick and painless process - just appear at the appointment with ID and the docs they require, answer a few questions about why you need the NI number and sign a form. They should provide the number there and then at the end of the interview.
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