All electric household heating

Richie-from-the-Boro

Lifespan of night store heating is 30/60/90 years plus. I've replaced one element (DIY) since 1982 about £8 quid. It's just a tin of bricks.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Kirstym2019 wrote: »

I wondered if anyone could help or provide any guidance with the below.

We have an all electric household with no access to gas and no ability to have lpg tank or similar due to listed building. We currently have a Heatrae Sadia electronic boiler. Our house is 2 beds and our heating bill is peaking at over £300 per month. The Heatrae Sadia is an all electric wet radiator system so heats hot water at peak rates to heat the wet radiators. The whole thing is very inefficient and we have no real control on a room by room basis.

I have been looking into the German radiators. Neighbours had Fischer do an install but they’re hideously expensive and reviews are poor. I’ve found another company who could install 3 rads for £150” so not too bad.

My biggest question/concern being will they be cheaper to run than the current system?!

Current system is a 9kw boiler so I think this means it uses 9kw per hour to heat the water that heats the rads. The total kw of the 3 new German rads is less than this so I assume this means it’ll be a cheaper system to use but I could really do with someone who understands it better telling me if I am right or totally off with this.

I don’t want to rip all the rads out and then be in the same position with extortionate heating bills

I appreciate it’s never going to be economical with all electric heating but surely there’s a better option than the Heatrae Sadia electromax

Thank you!

Read this thread my friend.

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matelodave

Seriously - read the thread about Fischer, then the one about Rointe and then the one about Intelliheat and then wonder how these companies are still in business and be astonished that they can still rip people off.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2148437/anyone-used-rointe-heaters&highlight=rointe

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5548999/heatstore-intellirad-radiators-reviews&highlight=rointe

As others have said the cheapest way to heat your place would be by storage heaters on an E7 tariff - but as in all things they need to be sized correctly. Theres is no benefit in getting undersized units and then having to suplement your heating with heaters on the peak rate. The other benefits of E7 are that you can heat your hot water on the off-peak rate as well as doing your washing, drying and dishwashing etc.

You system is possibly the most expensive way to heat using leccy with Rointe, Fischer and Intelliheat comig in a very close second.

Just buy a oil filled rad or panel heater from Argos or even Aldi if you want to try heating with a normal peak rate heater.

They are no more or less efficient than one with magic dust, clay, fluid or other exotic stuff costing 5-10 times as much and at least you would see that they would be nearly as expensive to run as your existing wet system.

The other alternative is to install a heat pump which can be very efficient if done properly and if the heating system is suitably modified.

Do not be tempted or persuaded to just add one to your existing system. The radiators and pipework need to be properly sized to get the benefit.

You also need to understand how they operate and learn to use them properly to gain the benefits.

Do it incorrectly and it will be just as expensive to run as the system you've already got but they do work and some of the outlay can be recovered via the Renewable Heat Incentive payments. So are a long term investment.

interestedinsavings

Have you got thermostatic radiator valves ( TRV's )? These would allow you to control the temperature of each room individually and control the energy use better. You can get TRV's which are fully programmable and even controllable by app.
Reducing the temperatures in unused rooms would mean a higher return water temperature to the boiler and would save money