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Channel 5: Britain's Parking Hell

Hi all,

Anyone been watching this programme tonight? Some awful stories of people losing everything as they didn't see the notifications and got CCJ's against them :o
"The future needs a big kiss"
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,732 Forumite
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    A bit shy in naming and shaming PPCs, but UKPC signs were particularly prominent in the footage. Quelle surprise!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • I haven't watched it yet but I have recorded it, just hope it doesn't make me put my foot through the TV lol
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    With the ever increasing demise of local shops, the allowance of these companies to operate is madness.

    Yet another small parade of shops near us has now introduced parking restrictions to their car park. No this, no that......etc.

    This will just drive shoppers away even more.

    We go where we can park and not feel hounded by these people.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,423 Forumite
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    edited 30 January 2019 at 2:12AM
    I have no idea why landowners and retailers are so stupid, or so easily led by PPCs.

    I once saw a 'report' by ParkingEye aimed at convincing Aldi (& the local Council, as part of an application to reduce the parking time limit, as they do) that they were operating a useful service.

    It went on about how ANPR can produce figures of how many customers use the car park & how long they stay (big wow, Aldi could count customers themselves in a much less data-invasive and threatening way!). And how ANPR is an all singing, all dancing new technology that the retailer can't do without because it 'regulates' the parking, is a security measure used by the Police, and 'improves footfall'.

    There were various numbers written into a report, with pretty pictures. As transparent a load of drivel, ''damn lies & statistics'' as I've ever seen in my life!

    It said absolutely nothing that couldn't have been made up, and CLEARY putting ANPR cameras into a retail site cannot in any way ''improve footfall'' (or security) not in a million years. OMG what is the matter with retailers?

    Seems Aldi & the Council swallowed it whole though. The time limit as reduced despite the fact the car park served the local area, as a requirement of the planning permission.
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  • Having now watched the programme it really only confirmed what I already knew, the council CEO,s have a reasonable go at maintaining traffic flow and use a common sense approach with issuing tickets(well some of them lol) BUT!!!! the private parking goons, well they really are the scum of the earth.


    I liked the whistleblower, shame he didn't name the scammers though.
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 30 January 2019 at 8:47AM
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
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    And how ANPR is an all singing, all dancing new technology that the retailer can't do without because it 'regulates' the parking, is a security measure used by the Police, and 'improves footfall'.

    It said absolutely nothing that couldn't have been made up,
    As owd Trev did in the marketing of his 'ANPR In a Box' - full of his very own algy rythums, hatched in his garden shed, capable of catching shoplifters, terrorists and illegal immigrants. Pity he doesn't have a few boxes left that could now be usefully deployed on and around Kent beaches! :D
    I liked the whistleblower, shame he didn't name the scammers though.
    Tony Taylor, a former UKPC lieutenant, commenting in the main about his ex-employer, as well as some more general observations.

    Not without his own controversy around these parts! Opened his own Appeals Service some time ago.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • bergkamp
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    I liked the whistleblower, shame he didn't name the scammers though.

    It was UKPC, and TT is making a lot of money from the public with his 'appeal service' .....
  • Dean000000
    Dean000000 Posts: 612 Forumite
    edited 30 January 2019 at 8:56AM
    To be fair I enjoyed that dude (that clearly skipped leg day) lose his parking case though.

    Clearly he thought he was too smart - and in my opinion his permit ‘that he refused to put in car’ despite having it, was clearly on a second car (guest/girlfriend), parked in his space. (Why else wouldn’t he have been parked in either his own space, or without a permit)

    And it goes to show the dangers of the attitude that ‘these guys are just scammers’ that is so prevelant on these boards ought to be treated with care.....

    I mean 7 consecutive days he was fined....why not address the ‘non compliance’ after day 1 and fight the singular ticket....

    Sorry - but I genuinely hold that unpopular opinion....
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,732 Forumite
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    I mean 7 consecutive days he was fined....why not address the ‘non compliance’ after day 1 and fight the singular ticket....
    ..... assuming a windscreen ticket was attached to his vehicle, not a Notice to Keeper arriving in the post a couple of weeks later, followed by another one every day for the following 6 days. A bit too late for him!

    But I agree about the complacency.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • very true - hadnt considered that...


    though, the whole basis of this case was that it was included within his lease (which therefore overrode any other 'obligation') only to find out he hadn't even been parking in the correct space - totally undermining this case...
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