Parking Eye PCN - Situation

Soosh

Hi all,

So, I've read the Newbies thread, but I have some questions with the current scenario:

- The keeper received a Parking Eye Parking Charge Notice.
- The driver paid the parking fee late (it was eventually paid within the time period that the driver initially was supposed to pay for), however the driver did pay for that time period. The PCN does not mention this part at all though. The driver left the car park just over 10 minutes late.

I hope the above made sense. Is there any way for the keeper to appeal against this, given the above circumstances? If so, I assume the keeper can just use the "Template appeal for BPA or IPC members template" to appeal?

Thanks

KeithP

Soosh wrote: »

I assume I can just use the "Template appeal for BPA or IPC members template" to appeal?

That's exactly what the keeper should do.

Send it unchanged - no additions or alterations needed.

Send it as the keeper.

Wasn't it the keeper that received the PCN trough the post?
Please edit your post.

Redx

the DRIVER should do nothing at all, unless the KEEPER decides to nominate who was driving to get out of their own obligations


otherwise, the KEEPER appeals with the template, as long as the vehicle is NOT a hire or lease or company vehicle

Soosh

KeithP wrote: »

That's exactly what the keeper should do.

Send it unchanged - no additions or alterations needed.

Send it as the keeper.

Wasn't it the keeper that received the PCN trough the post?
Please edit your post.

Redx wrote: »

the DRIVER should do nothing at all, unless the KEEPER decides to nominate who was driving to get out of their own obligations


otherwise, the KEEPER appeals with the template, as long as the vehicle is NOT a hire or lease or company vehicle

Thanks for the quick reply guys, really helpful! It seemed silly for me to post this, but given the scenario, I wasn't too sure.

KeithP

Nonono. It was the driver that paid the fee.

It was the driver who did everything on the day, but it was the keeper who subsequently received the postal PCN and is now appealing.
More editing needed.

Redx

what happened ON the day happened to the DRIVER


what happened SINCE the day happened to the KEEPER

The_Deep

The whole industry is a scam, relying on threats of court, and the public's ignorance of the Law, A bill is currently before parliament which will regulate the scammers, many of whom are ex-clampers.

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Second Reading in the Lords this month, and, with a fair wind, will l become Law later this year..

All five readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 7-8 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

Soosh

KeithP wrote: »

Nonono. It was the driver that paid the fee.

It was the driver who did everything on the day, but it was the keeper who subsequently received the postal PCN and is now appealing.
More editing needed.

Redx wrote: »

what happened ON the day happened to the DRIVER


what happened SINCE the day happened to the KEEPER

Ah. I get it. Thank you for the clarification!

Soosh

Redx wrote: »

what happened ON the day happened to the DRIVER


what happened SINCE the day happened to the KEEPER

KeithP wrote: »

Nonono. It was the driver that paid the fee.

It was the driver who did everything on the day, but it was the keeper who subsequently received the postal PCN and is now appealing.
More editing needed.

I had another read of the template, and I've got another question. As the keeper will be requesting for records of payments made and an explanation of the PCN, could they not reply in defence that the driver had paid late (lets say over 30 minutes late)? I would assume it would be fine as long as the driver had paid the full fee for the required time period, and left within that time period (+20 mins grace period).

KeithP

Please re-read the first reply you received.

Here is part of it again:

Send it unchanged - no additions or alterations needed.

Send it as the keeper.

Soosh

Okay, gotcha