Keyless Entry thefts....

motorguy

danny91 wrote: »

The best thing to do is purchase a ghost immobiliser.

+1

Thats what i'd be doing if it was an issue for me.

motorguy

wymondham wrote: »

With the industry hell bent on promoting keyless entry theft, what can be done to stop it?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47023003

How about removing a few stars on NCAP for models that can be broken into?

Simple and cheap steps - as described by AdrianC - can remove the risk.

parking_question_chap

What is the point in keyless entry? Is it really that hard to press a button on the fob?

Browntoa

Add a 2nd step with a simple button press on the fob to confirm its physically in your hands , you approach car , key fob flash , press button . Same steps to confirm start car .

Manufacturer have gone for cheaper than more secure

oldagetraveller

parking_question_chap wrote: »

What is the point in keyless entry? Is it really that hard to press a button on the fob?

Or, dare I be so bold as to add, turn a key in a door lock?
Why is the wheel always being re-invented?

AdrianC

Johno100 wrote: »

Sorry no I'm not confused, those are keyless entry and start models, they aren't busily cutting a physical key in there are they? Do you see them put a key in any of the doors before they enter the vehicles once they've programmed a key?

I saw how they opened the door, yes. Clue - it wasn't by taking advantage of the keyless entry...

But as it seems you want to limit the discussion to relay theft then go ahead.

OBD port security flaws apply to keyed cars just as much as keyless.

If you're talking about keyless, you're talking about RFID relaying.


You might as well point to a keyless car being taken on a transporter.

AdrianC

Browntoa wrote: »

Add a 2nd step with a simple button press on the fob to confirm its physically in your hands , you approach car , key fob flash , press button . Same steps to confirm start car .

Which does kind of negate the whole point of RFID proximity security, the benefit of which is not having to press a button on the keyfob to unlock the car.

Nasqueron

parking_question_chap wrote: »

What is the point in keyless entry? Is it really that hard to press a button on the fob?

For me it's a novelty but one that means I can have a key secreted somewhere on me and open the car or boot without hunting for the key and can start the car which I like. With the sports I do, I can get back to the car wet or cold and it's nice to just pop the boot without trying to fish out keys



Mine does have a key to open it in the fob though it seems to set off the alarm if the battery is flat.

forgotmyname

If a car has windows its easy to steal. Brick them up.

But they they will just lift it away. Thats been happening for years where is the scaremongering for that?

When the pug convertibles were popular a friend had theirs stolen. neighbours watched the breakdown truck lift it away in the middle of the day. They assumed it had broken down or going in for a service.