Advice with council and dogs barking from adjoining property

oddies

Thank you everyone :T the noise abatement order stands until they move, it is not a council property so things are harder for council to deal with. Yes I have spoken to her many times and always asked in a nice manner but I just get abuse every time. I have only lost it once and she called the police on me. I have many police recorders logged and many of my own records we sent to the council but they have many more records. I will follow advice and I thank you. Dealing with the council has been very stressful they keep telling me it’s harder to deal with a barking dog when the owner is in the house ? To be honest I think they have just fobbed me off for months on end, never turning up for appointments, ringing them all week two or three times a day and never got back to till end of the week. Told they have recordings then they haven’t etc ect. Now I think they are running scared because they have told them if they don’t stop hassling them they are going to see a solicitor...thank you again everyone x x x

hollydays

Can you just clarify your last sentance?

oddies

hollydays wrote: »

Can you just clarify your last sentance?

This is what I was told by the council that if the council keep ringing them and making complaints they will talk to a solicitor? Like I say it’s just what the council has told me

hollydays

Again, did they give a reason for the case being closed?

TheTalkingDead

A threat of solicitor is nothing to the council, a solicitor costing the dog owner money to write a letter can simply be ignored, there is no requirement to write back to a solicitor or even respond, I laugh when poeple threaten other people with solicitors, lawyers etc because its your/their money to write a letter that has no authority to be adhered to or responded to, so go ahead, only time anyone needs to respond to a letter is when it comes from the court or police. So them threatening a solicitor after the fact and order has been placed on them in the courts leaves a solicitor in a weak position to start out with.


I dont want to say it but the order may have been dropped due to not being correctly served or it was faulty (as they may have found out in a case review by EH and the council), or had been challenged in the magistrates by the occupier and was quashed.

oddies

hollydays wrote: »

Again, did they give a reason for the case being closed?

I have managed to speak to my Line Manager regarding your recent complaint about alleged nuisance dog barking. Due to the fact that we have closed down the recent case against the owners and made them aware of this factor, due to the substantial reduction in nuisance barking. We would have to open a new case and send you out monitoring sheets again for you to complete and send back to us. Obviously previous complaints would be taken into consideration. I understand that this is not the outcome that you want but it is the only option open to us to take.

oddies

TheTalkingDead wrote: »

A threat of solicitor is nothing to the council, a solicitor costing the dog owner money to write a letter can simply be ignored, there is no requirement to write back to a solicitor or even respond, I laugh when poeple threaten other people with solicitors, lawyers etc because its your/their money to write a letter that has no authority to be adhered to or responded to, so go ahead, only time anyone needs to respond to a letter is when it comes from the court or police. So them threatening a solicitor after the fact and order has been placed on them in the courts leaves a solicitor in a weak position to start out with.


I dont want to say it but the order may have been dropped due to not being correctly served or it was faulty (as they may have found out in a case review by EH and the council), or had been challenged in the magistrates by the occupier and was quashed.

He said he was going to challenge the order but never bothered turning up to court, I was assured the order is in place till they move out, there have been lots of issues with loud music, people arriving all hours of the night, people drunk running around the garden with dogs chasing them at 2.30 am. But it’s mostly the dogs now. I would be more than happy for them to take me to court then see what happens. I am now on anti depressants

oddies

TheTalkingDead wrote: »

A threat of solicitor is nothing to the council, a solicitor costing the dog owner money to write a letter can simply be ignored, there is no requirement to write back to a solicitor or even respond, I laugh when poeple threaten other people with solicitors, lawyers etc because its your/their money to write a letter that has no authority to be adhered to or responded to, so go ahead, only time anyone needs to respond to a letter is when it comes from the court or police. So them threatening a solicitor after the fact and order has been placed on them in the courts leaves a solicitor in a weak position to start out with.


I dont want to say it but the order may have been dropped due to not being correctly served or it was faulty (as they may have found out in a case review by EH and the council), or had been challenged in the magistrates by the occupier and was quashed.

I have managed to speak to my Line Manager regarding your recent complaint about alleged nuisance dog barking. Due to the fact that we have closed down the recent case against the owners and made them aware of this factor, due to the substantial reduction in nuisance barking. We would have to open a new case and send you out monitoring sheets again for you to complete and send back to us. Obviously previous complaints would be taken into consideration. I understand that this is not the outcome that you want but it is the only option open to us to take.

oddies

Before anyone asks I have no objections to dogs I have owned many myself and love all animals ( aside from moths yuk ) it’s not the dogs fault it’s the owners. The dogs are well looked after it’s she just cannot control them.

TheTalkingDead

oddies wrote: »

I have managed to speak to my Line Manager regarding your recent complaint about alleged nuisance dog barking. Due to the fact that we have closed down the recent case against the owners and made them aware of this factor, due to the substantial reduction in nuisance barking. We would have to open a new case and send you out monitoring sheets again for you to complete and send back to us. Obviously previous complaints would be taken into consideration. I understand that this is not the outcome that you want but it is the only option open to us to take.

Ah so they shut it down, that means there's been a substantial passage of time since the last complaint, No complaint=No no problems and the noise has gone away, and they must have done a survey of the area with visits and found no issues, or found the dog barking has reduced in frequency.


Can you clarify if the Council issued the order of noise abatement, or were the occupier taken to court and by whom and it was a court issued anti social behaviour order, the two are very different in the way they are enforced.