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No longer able to claim JSA and receive NI credits...?

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  • 50Twuncle
    50Twuncle Posts: 10,763 Forumite
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    edited 11 June 2020 at 7:33AM
    Thanks for all of your help and advise but I didn't even start this thread !
    I would have thought that it would be a good  idea to get this issue sorted out? 
  • calcotti
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    edited 11 June 2020 at 7:51AM
    50Twuncle said:
    Thanks for all of your help and advise but I didn't even start this thread !
    I would have thought that it would be a good  idea to get this issue sorted out? 
    Not clear what you are saying. Although you did not start the thread you added your question to it, even though it is 5 months old. What do you mean by it would be be a good idea to get this issue sorted. The answers have explained how to get NI credits.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy12345
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    50Twuncle said:

    I would have thought that it would be a good  idea to get this issue sorted out? 
    For yourself or the OP? This thread was started 5 months ago and the person who started hasn't been active sine the end of January..

  • 50Twuncle
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    50Twuncle said:

    I would have thought that it would be a good  idea to get this issue sorted out? 
    For yourself or the OP? This thread was started 5 months ago and the person who started hasn't been active sine the end of January..

    Why don't you block me then
    You are now blocked by myself
    You can then do whatever it is that you do without any rude comments from me
    And I can do the same... 
  • sammyjammy
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    calcotti said:
    I remember quite some time ago there was a huge thread regarding your NI contributions and several people tried to help and advise you with this. They went round in circles so many times, in the end they gave up. I can't find that thread now in amoungst all of your past threads. This thread is also 5 months old...
    I didn't make the connection - I think that would be this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5813461/ni-credits-problem#latest. That thread ran for six months - not going through that again.

    Thanks for that, i did look but couldn't find it. I also thought that you did contribute towards that thread but couldn't remember exactly. I know Alice contributed a lot to it. I agree, lets not go there again.
    Edit to add, i also see it was started more than 2 years ago, which means the OP is no further forward to claiming NI contributions... :o
    There is a current thread on Pensions board too, OP hasn't sorted it out because they want the NI credits without the responsibilities that come with claiming ESA.  I'm sure you'll survive the blocking!
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  • tboo
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    edited 11 June 2020 at 6:17PM
    50Twuncle said:
    50Twuncle said:

    I would have thought that it would be a good  idea to get this issue sorted out? 
    For yourself or the OP? This thread was started 5 months ago and the person who started hasn't been active sine the end of January..

    Why don't you block me then
    You are now blocked by myself
    You can then do whatever it is that you do without any rude comments from me
    And I can do the same... 

    Wow, you are a very rude person and I don't see where poppy was rude
    You will now not get the help you require due to that reason, so you may as well ask the jobcentre your question
    Best of luck
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  • 50Twuncle
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    calcotti said:
    I remember quite some time ago there was a huge thread regarding your NI contributions and several people tried to help and advise you with this. They went round in circles so many times, in the end they gave up. I can't find that thread now in amoungst all of your past threads. This thread is also 5 months old...
    I didn't make the connection - I think that would be this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5813461/ni-credits-problem#latest. That thread ran for six months - not going through that again.

    Thanks for that, i did look but couldn't find it. I also thought that you did contribute towards that thread but couldn't remember exactly. I know Alice contributed a lot to it. I agree, lets not go there again.
    Edit to add, i also see it was started more than 2 years ago, which means the OP is no further forward to claiming NI contributions... :o
    There is a current thread on Pensions board too, OP hasn't sorted it out because they want the NI credits without the responsibilities that come with claiming ESA.  I'm sure you'll survive the blocking!
    It's not that I don't want to claim ESA - It is that I am not entitled to claim any money through ESA  !
    Contributory ESA - due to a lack of relevant recent NI contributions or
    Income based ESA due to having over the maximum savings limit of £16,000 
    I do, however, meet the requirements for claiming ESA !


  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    50Twuncle said:
    calcotti said:
    I remember quite some time ago there was a huge thread regarding your NI contributions and several people tried to help and advise you with this. They went round in circles so many times, in the end they gave up. I can't find that thread now in amoungst all of your past threads. This thread is also 5 months old...
    I didn't make the connection - I think that would be this thread https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5813461/ni-credits-problem#latest. That thread ran for six months - not going through that again.

    Thanks for that, i did look but couldn't find it. I also thought that you did contribute towards that thread but couldn't remember exactly. I know Alice contributed a lot to it. I agree, lets not go there again.
    Edit to add, i also see it was started more than 2 years ago, which means the OP is no further forward to claiming NI contributions... :o
    There is a current thread on Pensions board too, OP hasn't sorted it out because they want the NI credits without the responsibilities that come with claiming ESA.  I'm sure you'll survive the blocking!
    It's not that I don't want to claim ESA - It is that I am not entitled to claim any money through ESA  !
    Contributory ESA - due to a lack of relevant recent NI contributions or
    Income based ESA due to having over the maximum savings limit of £16,000 
    I do, however, meet the requirements for claiming ESA !


    So either you want to claim the NI credits via new-style ESA (credits-only claim, no money) or you don't. Seems a simple enough situation to me *shrug*
  • calcotti
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    50Twuncle said:
    It's not that I don't want to claim ESA - It is that I am not entitled to claim any money through ESA  !
    Contributory ESA - due to a lack of relevant recent NI contributions or
    Income based ESA due to having over the maximum savings limit of £16,000 
    I do, however, meet the requirements for claiming ESA !
    You cannot claim income based ESA because it has been abolished.
    Although you are not entitled to be paid new style ESA because you lack the NI contributions it has been explained to you previously that you should be able to apply for new style ESA which will trigger a Work capability assessment and if you are found to have Limited capability for Work to receive NI credits.  This advice hasn't changed since two years ago.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • 50Twuncle
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    calcotti said:
    It's not that I don't want to claim ESA - It is that I am not entitled to claim any money through ESA  !
    Contributory ESA - due to a lack of relevant recent NI contributions or
    Income based ESA due to having over the maximum savings limit of £16,000 
    I do, however, meet the requirements for claiming ESA !
    You cannot claim income based ESA because it has been abolished.
    Although you are not entitled to be paid new style ESA because you lack the NI contributions it has been explained to you previously that you should be able to apply for new style ESA which will trigger a Work capability assessment and if you are found to have Limited capability for Work to receive NI credits.  This advice hasn't changed since two years ago.

    That is exactly what I am trying to do
    But my local JCP won't accept that this the way to do it
    They want me to attend work assessment meetings a do work searches - both of which would be totally pointless and difficult for me - I am virtually immobile and my I'll health pension forbids me from earning through working.

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