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Do I need to buy a license if I dont terrestrial TV?

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  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,492 Forumite
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    edited 4 July 2019 at 12:40PM
    pphillips wrote: »
    I find it confusing when I want to watch a live stream and have no idea whether or not it is being broadcast concurrently on one of many hundreds of TV channels.

    The reality of it is that at least for the moment, only the biggest broadcasters have the financial muscle to even consider live streaming of broadcast channels.

    That means Sky and ITV, basically(*). Of those, AFAIK, only Sky News has a live stream on Youtube.

    (*) No BBC streaming without a Licence, at all.
  • pphillips
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    Cornucopia wrote: »
    The reality of it is that at least for the moment, only the biggest broadcasters have the financial muscle to even consider live streaming of broadcast channels.

    That means Sky and ITV, basically(*). Of those, AFAIK, only Sky News has a live stream on Youtube.

    (*) No BBC streaming without a Licence, at all.

    Youtube has all sorts of official or unofficial live streams by different users and so it is not always clear whether or not what is being streamed mirrors a TV broadcast.
  • missile
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    I have been told >
    "If you write to the BBC , telling them you are refusing to pay the fee as they have blatantly ignored their own constitution which says they will not give money to any political party or organisation ( which they have ) and give them 2 weeks to respond to you ... ( which they won’t ) , you need never pay the licence fee ever again , quite lawfully ."
    Is this Bull Faeces?
    +++
    I replied>
    "That would be great, if it works. Where did you get that information? Have you done that yourself?"
    His response>
    "yes , I did - and know several others who did it too .
    I’m sure a bit of googling will expand on it too ��"
    I have searched and been unable to find anything to support his proposal
    "A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
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  • Chino
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    missile wrote: »
    I have searched and been unable to find anything to support his proposal
    Well, there's a surprise.
  • Cornucopia
    Cornucopia Posts: 16,492 Forumite
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    missile wrote: »
    I have been told >
    "If you write to the BBC , telling them you are refusing to pay the fee as they have blatantly ignored their own constitution which says they will not give money to any political party or organisation ( which they have ) and give them 2 weeks to respond to you ... ( which they won’t ) , you need never pay the licence fee ever again , quite lawfully ."
    Is this Bull Faeces?

    Yes, completely untrue. (Pretty much every word).
  • pphillips
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    I've seen a few Youtube videos where TV Licensing have showed up and the occupier won't answer questions and don't let them into the property. Then on another occasion TV Licensing show up but this time they have a warrant and the police but the occupier still won't answer questions and won't let them into the property. I found it interesting that the police were powerless to do anything because it was not an offence to obstruct the execution of a warrant.
  • Cornucopia
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    edited 5 July 2019 at 8:32AM
    pphillips wrote: »
    I've seen a few Youtube videos where TV Licensing have showed up and the occupier won't answer questions and don't let them into the property.
    Yes - under normal circumstances, TV Licensing staff have no special status, either for themselves or for their work, and you do not have to answer their questions or allow them access to your home.

    It seems to me that there are a variety of good reasons not to speak with them or allow them access, which I mentioned a few posts ago.
    Then on another occasion TV Licensing show up but this time they have a warrant and the police but the occupier still won't answer questions and won't let them into the property. I found it interesting that the police were powerless to do anything because it was not an offence to obstruct the execution of a warrant.

    This is not correct. Obstructing a warrant issued to the BBC or their agents is an offence under S.366 Communications Act.

    If TV Licensing have a Warrant, then that empowers them to enter premises and search for TV receiving equipment, and then to examine and test any they find. The law even compels a householder to give "reasonable assistance" in examining and testing equipment (though not in the search itself).

    Even after a Warrant execution, you still do not have to answer questions under caution, and your rights to Silence and to legal advice still apply.

    Having said all of that, the numbers are tiny. There are around 100 TVL Warrants for the entirety of England & Wales over a whole year, and a small proportion of those (maybe single figures) will result in an Obstruction offence.

    The law requires that there should be reasonable suspicion of an offence before a Warrant is issued, and whilst some cases suggest problems with that process, it is still the case that a household that is acting lawfully shouldn't overly concern themselves about the possibility of a Warrant.
  • Stu6781
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    Can I cancel my tv licence if I only watch Netflix and non live tv?
  • [Deleted User]
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    If by non live TV you mean BBC iplayer then you would still need a licence.

    Otherwise no licence required.

    For more, read https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/utilities/tv-licence/
  • Stu6781
    Stu6781 Posts: 119 Forumite
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    I mean standard tv that isn’t recorded live e.g love island, eastenders etc...
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