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PCN issued on a private, unadopted road

1246717

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  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    How long are you expecting to be away? (From / To)

    You really think they'll issue a claim so quickly after the LBC times out?
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    If you have used your real name as your forum name then you need to get MSE to change it to something anonymous

    The ppcs monitor this forum and can use posts in your thread against you in Court
  • jackRlnd
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    DoaM wrote: »
    How long are you expecting to be away? (From / To)

    You really think they'll issue a claim so quickly after the LBC times out?
    I'll be away for sep and a bit of oct.

    How soon after the 30 days expire do they usually send out the claim.
  • jackRlnd
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    Quentin wrote: »
    If you have used your real name as your forum name then you need to get MSE to change it to something anonymous

    The ppcs monitor this forum and can use posts in your thread against you in Court


    cheers for the reminder. my real name is nothing like my username.

    Would you happen to have any opinions on requesting in the SAR that any claim must be for all PCNs issued against me?
  • Le_Kirk
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    jackRlnd wrote: »
    cheers for the reminder. my real name is nothing like my username.

    Would you happen to have any opinions on requesting in the SAR that any claim must be for all PCNs issued against me?
    If you read the NEWBIE sticky post # 2, you will see (amongst other items to be requested), this: -
    - and a list of all PCNs they consider are outstanding against you and/or this VRN, and remind them that any claim must be for all PCNs in one claim, not several separate claims.
  • jackRlnd
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    Le_Kirk wrote: »
    If you read the NEWBIE sticky post # 2, you will see (amongst other items to be requested), this: -

    yup, I saw it which is why I raised the question as my situation might warrant excluding that. I actaully have a permit (a visitors one but still valid) and in many of the pcn's I've received the permit ias actually visible and cpm have not bothered chasing up any of these.

    this one in particular the permit is not visible so I am wondering if lumping all the pcn's intop one claim would result in my having to pay up for all the pcn's I've received (even the ones where there is a valid permit on display) should I lose my defense
  • Coupon-mad
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    The letter is dated 2019-08-07 and I have 30 days to pay/reply. Obviously I'm not going to pay but I am concerned a claim could be sent whilst I'm away and I'm unable to respond in time.
    Not if you wait till the day before you are due to go away, email Gladstones using their enquiries@ email addy, and tell them that you require them to contact their client to ensure that if a claim is to be started that all PCNs relating to your data/VRN must be included in one consolidated claim, and that you:

    - deny any debt, but that you

    - are seeking debt advice

    That last phrase forces them to put the case on hold for another fresh 30 days. Read the pre-action protocol for debt claims from 2017 - that right is in there!
    this one in particular the permit is not visible so I am wondering if lumping all the pcn's intop one claim would result in my having to pay up for all the pcn's I've received (even the ones where there is a valid permit on display) should I lose my defense
    No, a Judge would want each PCN to be evidenced with photos etc., and can disallow some quickly on the spot then focus only on the more knotty ones. Judges are pretty astute.

    It is far better and less stressful, I would suggest, to have just one hearing if these PCNs are about the same car, site, claimant and defendant.
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  • Umkomaas
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    Send a SAR as soon as possible - they have 30 days in which to respond, and as it's the least of their priorities, they will take that long in most cases.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Le_Kirk
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    jackRlnd wrote: »
    ..........this one in particular the permit is not visible so I am wondering if lumping all the pcn's intop one claim would result in my having to pay up for all the pcn's I've received (even the ones where there is a valid permit on display) should I lose my [strike]defense[/strike]defence
    You are not lumping all the PCNs together in one claim, you are asking the Data Protection Officer (DPO) to send you all the PCNs in your name or your VRM, nothing they don't already know!
  • jackRlnd
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    Le_Kirk wrote: »
    You are not lumping all the PCNs together in one claim, you are asking the Data Protection Officer (DPO) to send you all the PCNs in your name or your VRM, nothing they don't already know!

    a little confused. in the newbie thread it says to ask in the SAR:

    - and a list of all PCNs they consider are outstanding against you and/or this VRN, and remind them that any claim must be for all PCNs in one claim, not several separate claims.
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