Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

BikingBud

Anyway about this fall into a bottomless chasm:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/why-britain-like-iceland-will-thrive-outside-the-eu/

If Iceland, while outside the EU, can achieve the highest level of growth of any western nation so soon after the collapse of its banking system and public finances, then I’m sure that a post-Brexit Britain — the world’s fifth-largest economy — can prosper, too. Nevertheless, there will certainly be some negative short-term consequences from leaving the EU. What can you do to avoid them?

qwert_yuiop

phillw wrote: »

So he met with Sinn Fein when both he and they wanted peace talks & that is somehow evidence he supports the IRA? Sounds like a leap.

That wasn’t what they were telling him and the rest of us. Their supposed armed struggle was in full activity, admittedly with most of their protagonists winding up dead any time they tried it on with the police. Local gossip had it that g Adams himself was an informer. Who knows? Maybe he was.

So they duped Corbyn.

scaredofdebt

BikingBud wrote: »

Anyway about this fall into a bottomless chasm:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/why-britain-like-iceland-will-thrive-outside-the-eu/

Because Britain is just like Iceland.

phillw

BikingBud wrote: »

Anyway about this fall into a bottomless chasm:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/why-britain-like-iceland-will-thrive-outside-the-eu/

I can't read the article, without logging in. But I can see this bit...

Temporary EEA membership is the best route out of Europe

I don't see Boris being able to negotiate that. The EU would want guarantees on Ireland to allow it, Boris can't give those guarantees without destroying the Conservative party.

The people most responsible for preventing brexit is the ERG. They have too much influence within the party, it's greater than the number of members.

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

That wasn’t what they were telling him and the rest of us. Their supposed armed struggle was in full activity, admittedly with most of their protagonists winding up dead any time they tried it on with the police. Local gossip had it that g Adams himself was an informer. Who knows? Maybe he was.

So they duped Corbyn.

So are you're saying that

1. Corbyn pretended to be interested in peaceful talks publicly
2. Adams was only interested in peaceful talks
3. Adams pretended to Corbyn in private to only be interested in violence

Can you provide some evidence of that? It seems far fetched.

qwert_yuiop

BikingBud wrote: »

Anyway about this fall into a bottomless chasm:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/why-britain-like-iceland-will-thrive-outside-the-eu/

Well of course you can have a high level of growth if you start from rock bottom. There was one point in the 90s where Bosnia had the fastest growing economy in Europe. I wouldn’t recommend having a civil war as a route to bing able to boast about your recovery.

qwert_yuiop

phillw wrote: »

I can't read the article, without logging in. But I can see this bit...

Temporary EEA membership is the best route out of Europe

I don't see Boris being able to negotiate that. The EU would want guarantees on Ireland to allow it, Boris can't give those guarantees without destroying the Conservative party.

The people most responsible for preventing brexit is the ERG. They have too much influence within the party, it's greater than the number of members.



So are you're saying that

1. Corbyn pretended to be interested in peaceful talks publicly
2. Adams was only interested in peaceful talks
3. Adams pretended to Corbyn in private to only be interested in violence

Can you provide some evidence of that? It seems far fetched.

He was over here backing their terrorist campaign. They were trying to accept defeat without looking like losers. They made a fool of him.

BikingBud

Perhaps worth a read:
https://briefingsforbrexit.com/ten-reasons-that-justify-the-uks-decision-to-leave-the-european-union/

One, the EU is a fundamentally protectionist trading bloc
Two, the EU seriously misallocates resources
Three, the EU is a political project that is fundamentally anti-democratic,
Four, is the ‘purposive’ nature of EU law
Five, is the folly of introducing the euro
Six, is the demographic ageing of the EU’s population,
Seven, the EU has inadvertently encouraged regional separatist movements to develop in a number of member states
Eight, is increasing Euroscepticism in the EU
Nine, the EU has been blamed for the tension between Russia and the Ukraine
Finally, there is massive corruption in the EU

As a simple fact of good financial management, and public accountability, how can an organisation run for 20 years and not approve expenditure of €100 billion?:eek:


But you obviously have to take into account that according to many on here these people are: ignorant, racist, xenophobes and therefore their perspective is always lies.:o

mayonnaise

BikingBud wrote: »

Perhaps worth a read:

Yes, absolutely gripping.
A year old article by a brexiteer trying to justify brexit on a brexiteer website. Defo a must read.

lvader

mayonnaise wrote: »

Yes, absolutely gripping.
A year old article by a brexiteer trying to justify brexit on a brexiteer website. Defo a must read.

I make sure I read/view news from both sides, I can recognise I still have a biased view but seeing both sides of the argument is useful and I often learn something in the process.

The only stipulation I have is that I never pay for the news (other than TV subscriptions and licenses) as I refuse to directly finance news organisations as they are all have shown to have bias and I regard them all with contempt.

lvader

phillw wrote: »

So are you're saying that

1. Corbyn pretended to be interested in peaceful talks publicly

You mean he now pretends to have supported the peace talks.

John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn now claim to have promoted the peace process. But Mr Corbyn opposed a precursor to the peace process, the Anglo-Irish Agreement, and Mr McDonnell opposed the talks that led to the Good Friday Agreement, as obstacles to a united Ireland. Both men were closely associated with groups vitriolically hostile to the peaceful, constitutional nationalists of the SDLP

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11924431/Revealed-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-John-McDonnells-close-IRA-links.html