Fuel Blockade

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Voyager2002 wrote: »

I feel smug about this, since I rely on my bicycle. Anyone who worries about fuel prices should do the same. I mean, taking the car into a city centre to do Christmas shopping is just plain daft.

An increase in fuel prices is excellent news: there are far too many cars on the road, mostly doing short journeys that could be done on foot. And if a few inefficient businesses go under, that will just give more work to those who can do the job more efficiently. Road hauliers are a good example: most of their work should be done by the railways, and my hope is that if fuel stays at a realistically high level, that is precisely what will happen.

I would feel smug too, if i didnt have to do an 80 mile round trip to work each day. An increase in fuel price is great for people like you. For people like myself, not so great. Makes a massive hole in the wages each week and doesnt actually reward people going to work. That's excellent news isnt it, not.

Your sentiment is there but the application and reality is flawed.

daveyjp

I would feel smug too, if i didnt have to do an 80 mile round trip to work each day.

And therein lies the problem. Over the last 30 years our whole economy has grown around the fact that motoring is cheaper than moving house. 20 years ago no one drove 40 miles to work - now it's quite normal. I work with people who lived a few miles from work and have moved 30 miles away to be in a rural location. The car allows them to do this.

Undoing 30 years of social development will take at least 50.

Cumbrian_Male

I travel 80 mile round trip to work too.

Had to move office due to manipulative bullying manager who drove me to 5 month on the sick getting stress counseling.

PsiDOC

Hi all. 1st post, so please be gentle with me.
It seems that the south wales hauliers association is planning wildcat blockades. We were given the nod from above last week in work - I work on one of the refineries in the South Wales area. Measures have been put in place at the entrance to the refinery where I work. Not so much to stop any blockades but to stop lorries tearing up the newly landscaped grassy green verges!
On a personal note I am all for any protests as I was in Y2K. The protesters didn't block the refinery traffic, thus crippling the refinery, they simply asked for no fuel movement by road from the refinery. Refinery staff complied with this, and even invited the protesters to use the washrooms / showers and the on site canteen. There was no trouble at all and I welcome them back.
I personally think Mr. G Brown ESQ has beaten the fuel duty to death now and it's about time he lined the coffers from another source.
Did you know how much your fuel would cost if there was no duty on it even now with sky high oil prices?
19p per litre!!
I'll let you do the maths on how much the government gets!

Regards,

PsiDOC

anewman

PsiDOC wrote: »

Did you know how much your fuel would cost if there was no duty on it even now with sky high oil prices?
19p per litre!!

Where do you get that figure from? Currently it's *at least* 33.4p per litre excluding all taxes.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/cheaper-fuel

aliarmst

Hello fellow drivers,

I just came back from the United States where the american public are squeeling at now paying $3 a gallon....yes that's approx £1.50 FOR A GALLON!

When I told those folks that we were paying $8 (£4) for our gallon of petrol/gas they are in total disbelief :eek:

The equation is simple we have a rotten government that has no qaulms whatever in ripping us all off with levying us all with 80% taxation on the cost of a gallon.

!!!!!! Turpin Oops sorry, Mr Brown and his cronies could do much to alleviate the hardship many people are suffering, but will he? I think not. as long as they receive their share they couldn't care less about the rest of us. Sherriff of Nottingham comes to mind. I guess another example of rip off Britain.

Would the last person to leave please turn off the lights.

aliarmst

see http://www.petrolprices.com/fuel-tax.html

autismmum

if only electric cars were cheaper, why are they so smal and expensive, i'd like a new car next year but the smallest one to fit hubby me 3 kids and two dogs is a skoda fabia estate in diesel its band b
its just frustrating that we cant buy a prius or similar, why dont they make them with 5 seats

anewman

autismmum wrote: »

if only electric cars were cheaper, why are they so smal and expensive

Smaller means less weight for them to pull so they can be more efficient. They are expensive because the technology is expensive, only just developing, and they sell very few of them. One day there will be cleaner cars that don't use diesel or petrol and are still as good to drive, problem is it won't happen anytime within the next 30 years due to over-reliance on petrol.

lesley1960

Voyager2002 wrote: »

I feel smug about this, since I rely on my bicycle. Anyone who worries about fuel prices should do the same. I mean, taking the car into a city centre to do Christmas shopping is just plain daft.

An increase in fuel prices is excellent news: there are far too many cars on the road, mostly doing short journeys that could be done on foot. And if a few inefficient businesses go under, that will just give more work to those who can do the job more efficiently. Road hauliers are a good example: most of their work should be done by the railways, and my hope is that if fuel stays at a realistically high level, that is precisely what will happen.

As an owner of a haulage company i can see you are talking twaddle , the railway system in this country isnt up to it , and even if it was how do you think the goods would get to and from the rail hubs? men with wheel barrows?

Its not the fact that companies are inefficient its the fact that people arent willing to pay a fair price for the goods , business failure results in job losses , maybe even yours?

if fuel was £10 a litre i doubt cars would stay off the road , the price rises over the last few years have made no difference at all.

its not only road fuel that are being hit by high prices all oil based products are , you will be hit by these prices even if you only travel by bike