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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 160,512 Forumite
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    the DPO is asking for a copy of my vehicles V5 logbook to show evidence that I am the registered keeper - is this excessive or should I send a copy?

    That should have been uploaded with your SAR request. A data subject must show ID, so that is fine.
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  • snores
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    That should have been uploaded with your SAR request. A data subject must show ID, so that is fine.

    Thank you, I obviously didn't fully compute the instructions of how to send an SAR :/

    I'll be sending an SAR to the DVLA tomorrow, I'll also send a copy of the logbook as ID Just to be on the safe side
  • snores
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    edited 23 April 2019 at 7:23PM
    Just a quick update:

    Both SARs sent - one to PPC and one to DVLA.

    We'll be submitting our defence tomorrow so I thought I would bump this thread in the hopes that someone could possibly look over our draft defence below, particularly points 4-8. I appreciate that you guys must see these daily and are probably fed up of proof reading the same things, but seriously, any pointers would be greatly welcomed.


    Statement of Defence: Claim No. XXXXXXXX; Date: xx/xx/2018
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 14 January 2019 at 1:48AM
    Statement of Defence:

    Nope, it's DEFENCE, and that's a really long one, not concise at all.

    Look instead at bargepole's templates in the NEWBIES thread & use one.
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  • snores
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Nope, it's DEFENCE, and that;s a really long one, not concise at all.

    Look instead at bargepole's templates in the NEWBIES thread & use one.

    Thanks for the advice, we're going to use bargepoles defence on signs as the defence now.

    Quick question regarding this statment:

    "8. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100"


    If there were multiple parking charges issued would this £100 sum, mentioned above increase to the total of parking charges issued? I.e. if 5 notices were issued, with each charge carrying a £100 penalty, then should I change the figure to £500 or leave it at £100?

    Sorry if this seems like a daft or wordy question
  • Coupon-mad
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    Not daft at all, in fact I suggested to a poster that this point is expanded upon:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/75304578#Comment_75304578

    You can use that wording - it was designed for a multi ticket case as you can see, similar to your own - and adapt the £sum figures to suit.

    Strike HARD about this scam!
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  • snores
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Not daft at all, in fact I suggested to a poster that this point is expanded upon:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/75304578#Comment_75304578

    You can use that wording - it was designed for a multi ticket case as you can see, similar to your own - and adapt the £sum figures to suit.

    Strike HARD about this scam!

    Hi thank you for your earlier reply. Unfortunately we didn't see it before we filed our Defence and we left in the default paragraph "The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100. The claim includes an additional £60, for which no calculation or explanation is given, and which appears to be an attempt at double recovery".
    I imagine this will prove detrimental to us at court? We are panicking thinking we have done something majorly wrong.

    Additionally we have received our Directions Questionnaire - planning on sending it out today (before the 22nd). It mentions that we must serve copies on all other parties - does this mean the solicitors for the PPC? And would we have to photocopy the paper copy and mail this to them?

    Thanks again
  • Well it doesnt help
    You can explain this is per PCN in your WS, and state the maximum that is allowablce
    Major in court that claiming sums to which you are NOT entitled and you must know it - as parking companies know - is an abuse of process. The usual sanction for abuse would be to strike their claim out.

    I mean, IN COURT. Not before.

    Yes, you send to the solicitor. NEWBIES THREAD, POST TWO takes you through the ENTIRE process.
  • KeithP
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    snores wrote: »
    Additionally we have received our Directions Questionnaire - planning on sending it out today (before the 22nd). It mentions that we must serve copies on all other parties - does this mean the solicitors for the PPC? And would we have to photocopy the paper copy and mail this to them?
    Send your completed DQ to the CCBC using the same method and to the same email address that you sent your Defence.

    Send a copy to the Claimant/solicitor - address on your Claim Form.
  • Coupon-mad
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    I imagine this will prove detrimental to us at court? We are panicking thinking we have done something majorly wrong.
    Just calm down and read both versions.

    How on earth will it matter? It says the same thing, I was just making is stronger.

    You can always go into a bit more detail at Witness Statement/evidence stage.

    Next time check for replies before firing off statements!
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