removing gas bbq thread

EachPenny

spadoosh wrote: »

The only thing youve tried to do is question mine and the OPs credibility.

It has nothing to do with 'credibility'. It is about competence to carry out safety critical work safely. And unfortunately the more you post on this thread the more glaringly obvious that you've been giving the OP advice you aren't competent to give. A key part of competence is knowing the limitations of your own skills and knowledge (and giving the job to someone else if necessary).

But since we are on the subject, the first attack on anyone's 'credibility' on this thread was when you started having a go at Hermione Granger for querying the safety of what you were suggesting. Sarcastically responding to someone for daring to question whether your suggestion was safe was out of order - nobody should ever be made to feel bad for asking if something is safe.

spadoosh wrote: »

Youve yet to state how buying a hose connector and fastening to the hose with a jubilee clip either side is either illegal or unsafe.

I didn't say it was illegal. It might be unsafe if carried out by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. You are assuming that anyone can make a jubilee clip pipe connection safely, which simply isn't true.

It is also unnecessary - your suggestion would cost the OP time and money they don't need to waste, in addition to having a potentially unsafe BBQ.

spadoosh wrote: »

You determined the OP isnt competent. Your only evidence of this is them not being able to get a nut undone.

That was sufficient for me to feel the best advice is for them to buy a BBQ suitable for the kind of gas bottle they want to use, or else continue to use the kind of canister the BBQ was designed for.

If you don't understand why that is then you shouldn't be offering advice on alternative solutions.

spadoosh wrote: »

My knowledge comes from spending 10 years working at B&Q selling hundreds of BBQ's, building hundreds and inevitably being the person who had to deal with making the customer existing arrangement fit with their new BBQ.

Anyone can sell BBQ's, you don't need knowledge or qualifications to do so. As confirmed by the fact you spent 10 years selling BBQ's without knowing what gas they were being used with.

spadoosh wrote: »

I couldve swore though that the calor bottle we sold where a propane butane mix, definitely got that wrong.

In light of that you might want to withdraw your comment that I was being "riddiculous" for suggesting the OP should check the gas types. :whistle:

spadoosh wrote: »

Not that it matters though as you point out the regulators dictate if itll connect or not...

Well it does matter if somebody comes along and suggests swapping the regulators over without checking to make sure it is safe to do so. The reason there are different types of regulator and the colour coding is to reduce the risk of the wrong kind of cylinder being connected.

Your advice is the gas equivalent of telling someone to cut that odd-looking yellow plug off a power tool and stick a 13 amp UK plug on it instead.

spadoosh wrote: »

...and every bbq gas burner ive ever comes acroos is more than capable of burning either propane or butane.

I very much doubt that claim. Not least because you've spent 10 years working at B&Q making wrong assumptions about the kind of gas you were selling.

spadoosh wrote: »

Youre being particularly anal. Whilst great for procastinating and giving people jobs they dont really need its at the detriment of getting things done and peoples intellect. Give a man a fish and all that.

That's your opinion. In my view people shouldn't take risks with things that have the potential to kill or seriously injure them and their family. More importantly, people who don't understand stuff shouldn't be giving advice which could kill or seriously injure other people and their families.

Most of the time I'm happy to make suggestions which save people money. But when it comes to gas (or electricity and asbestos) extra care needs to be taken in giving advice because of the risks involved.

So yes, teach a man to fish... just as long as he's likely to recognise a Fugu if he catches one.

Hermione_Granger

spadoosh wrote: »

Ermhhh considering thousands upiong thousands of regulators are sold every year with the intention of them being sealed using the exact same method i would say it was a good suggestion. Its certainly better than yours anyway, isnt it? Unless of course you have information suggesting the tried and tested way of attaching a hose to a gas regulator doesnt work?

Why the hostility?
All I did was to post a question asking if it would be safe (didn't you see the question mark at the end on the first sentence?)

thelawnet

Thanks for the, er, heated debate. I think I had the wrong end of the stick, so to speak, as the nut on the gas valve side is large & hence harder to remove, but the one on the gas canister regulator side was smaller, and while there was some sort of threadlocker on it, it did come off without too much trouble.

I connected a gas hose to that with a jubilee clip & everything is fine now.