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Laptop for first time 'senior'?
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Obvious question to me, but does your grandad already have broadband?, if not don't forget the ongoing cost of that. Novatech sell computers without o/s,some others do too and many refurbishers often do too.4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy0
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May I suggest you investigate silver surfers classes for your Grandad. He would be able to meet with like minded individuals in a social environment."A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
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Personally, I do not think a computer is the answer, but does depend on the person.
You should be able to pick something up on freecycle - just to test the waters and find out how he is with it. If at his age his interest in things have dwained, then a computer may not help.
Then there is the signing up to an internet service which will cost between about £10 to 30 a month, but if has a 'lifeline' pendant or other medical phone service then he may need a second line which often involves 12 or 18 month contracts.
Do not set him up as admin equivalent (or tell him the admin pw), and also put team viewer on it. So many unwary, and also the elderly are being scammed by people offering services, or impersonation.
If I were you I would visit as many as I could pensioner centers, care homes, social services, occupational therapy, speak to the staff there, also social clubs, and hospitals (he could be a meeter and greeter, plus once he is familiar, show people around), something to keep him social and out of the house.
Some areas have pensioner buses or pensioner outings. If he is a fit 80, then ramblers association may be a way.
Then there is also University of the Third Age https://www.u3a.org.uk/
Although I hated the Bingo places, and it did zap my Mom's money, Bingo became her habit. It did help keep her sharper, gave her a meaning in life, and she did meet new people, but she was never a warm friendly person, or a 'joiner', did not capitulate with crowd mentality and in the end you only get out what you put in. Tried to get her to play Bridge, took her by car to the place so she could find it and worked out the bus stop too, but she would not go even tough she liked cards.0 -
Had PC's And now have a laptop which I only ever turn on to update W10. Bought iPad 3 when they first came out and never used laptop since. Bought present recon iPad 4 couple of years ago complete with cellular for £150 off Tesco, my Wife hates it as I spend far too long using it. You'll always get the Apple product haters just because its Apple but don't be put off until you've tried one. Also got a couple of Android tablets but still prefer iPad, also always use a good quality stylus as I'm one of the old generation who only use one finger typing.0
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EveryWhere wrote: »I honestly would steer clear of Chromebooks.EveryWhere wrote: »On the other hand, the six monthly updates to Windows 10 can be confusing, especially if it fouls up the device.Retired at age 56 after having "light bulb moment" due to reading MSE and its forums. Have been converted to the "budget to zero" concept and use YNAB for all monthly budgeting and long term goals.0
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tempus_fugit wrote: »That's why Chromebooks can be ideal as they don't have confusing and possibly disastrous updates to cope with.
Au contraire, Google updates its software extremely aggressively, in the sense of being very frequent and enforced (where it can do that - obviously so with Chromebooks). However, the company is also pretty good at not making this particularly obvious from the end user's POV, so long as you have no need to check on the amount of data being sucked down the internet pipe. So, less potentially confusing yes, but not because there aren't updates as such.0 -
I just can't stand Windows 10 and it's enforced and time consuming updates - which normally occur when you've powered up your device ready for kick-off time (or similar). Grrrr!)Would a laptop without any software at all be cheaper to buy? I haven't seen any 'blank' ones on sale anywhere - they all seem to come installed with some kind of OS (mostly Windows).
It would be good to start with a clean slate.May I suggest you investigate silver surfers classes for your Grandad. He would be able to meet with like minded individuals in a social environment.0 -
Thinking out loud... anybody tried Windows 10's latest Kiosk Mode Wizard? The aim being to produce a User Interface that just presents Edge browser... no logon, no desktop, no start menu, no task bar. Not sure how tailorable the browser is in terms of default tab settings. Will have a look at this later today.
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/kiosk-mode-offers-wizard-experience-windows-10If you put your general location in your Profile, somebody here may be able to come and help you.0 -
My local Library holds sessions for older people to learn to use computers - might be worth investigating. Just to give him a taste of what a computer will do. I think they concentrate on things like emails etc. Very straight forward stuff to start with.
I also saw an Age UK leaflet advertising computer/laptop clubs & classes.0 -
A tablet, hands down. No contest.
There's way too much stuff to get in the way before you can do anything on a PC, and that can trip you up, for someone who is just starting.
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