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Yellow jacket freedom fighters spreading to London
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The yellow jacket freedom fighters movement is spreading around Europe....
What do you mean 'freedom fighters'? The gilets jaunes were initially protesting about an increase in fuel taxes, which has now morphed into a general moan about higher living costs and Monsieur Macron's economic policies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46424267#The yellow vest movement is spreading to many other places and the media is trying to cover it up and downplay it, or change the narrative....
I've only come across one example of someone seeking to 'change the narrative', and that's err, you.0 -
AnotherJoe wrote: »The "people" could "demand" unicorns and the moon on a stick for everyone but they can't have that either, it's literally impossible to fulfil
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All the people need to do is find 650 of their number to stand for election to Parliament, vote for them, get around 330 of them elected, and hey presto, the People's Housing Party can indeed form a government and build a million homes a year.
Or at least try. Whilst it struggles with the consequences.
Freedom, in the form of democracy is like that. You can get anything you want, so long as you vote for it. Well maybe not real unicorns, but perhaps a few horses spray painted with plastic poles on their noggins would do?0 -
All the people need to do is find 650 of their number to stand for election to Parliament, vote for them, get around 330 of them elected, and hey presto, the People's Housing Party can indeed form a government and build a million homes a year.
Or at least try. Whilst it struggles with the consequences.
Freedom, in the form of democracy is like that. You can get anything you want, so long as you vote for it. Well maybe not real unicorns, but perhaps a few horses spray painted with plastic poles on their noggins would do?
No, they can't. Just to point out one inconvenient fact, there literally arent enough skilled tradespeople to build a million houses a year. Nowhere near it.
Freedom, in the form of democracy is like that. You can get anything you want, so long as you vote for it.
You really are deluded.
EDIT; My apologies Antrobus i thought this was a response from the OP and not your very dry humour which i do appreciate having reread this.0 -
itwasntme001 wrote: »
Most millenials who are at least 2nd generation British, will have wealth given to them in the form of gifts and inheritances. They are already well off. Ironically it is many of these people who are in the leftist/momentum camp. It seems they have no idea how good they have it or they are crazy leftists with low IQ. Im willing to bet both, they seem to like to destroy their own wealth potential given they are in the middle class.
Millennials are generally taken to be 1980/1981/1984 onwards (I'm in this bracket), I could probably get a gift though I doubt it'd be close to 10% for a even a small house around here - a 2 bed terrace like we have (thanks to my partner's much larger earnings) in the suburbs of Birmingham within commuting distance of the city centre is 200k+ but my parents are (hopefully) going to be a long way off me having any sort of inheritance. I don't imagine many people born in the 80s with parents from the 50s/60s are sat with huge inheritances.Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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my parents and grandparents were given political asylum in this country. They'd lost everything material, as well as members of their families. They started off in tiny flats, where several children were packed into tiny rooms (bunk beds and ones that opened out), with no central heating or even hot water.
As pointed out, it's a very different world from 70 years ago. There's lots of things available to the baby boomers (which you seem to fit squarely into) that weren't for millennials. That you were able to get to where you were with a bit of hard work doesn't mean that others can get the same as you did then with the same hard work now.
The housing situation doesn't seem to bad for the time either - though you're framing it to make it sounds like people are living in luxury with their 3.5 to a room, and if they are lucky the ability to run the heating when they need it.0 -
I don't imagine many people born in the 80s with parents from the 50s/60s are sat with huge inheritances.
What does 'are sat with' mean, grammatically?
If you are saying that many people born in the 1980s with parents born in the 1950s and '60s are not set to inherit, as a rule, then that is not the case. Those are precisely the people who are (or will be) often inheriting from their parents – i.e. the parents are the generation that is automatically grouped by some as 'rich baby boomers'.0 -
These are the changes I have seen over the years in regard to housing. London was too expensive for most people in the 1960s I know this because my father who worked for local government and moved round the country when offered a promotion turned down one in London because of the cost of housing. No one wanted to go there to live because of this.
What I am hearing now is how expensive London is to live in as if this was something strange and new. What is different now is that there are a large number of basically unintelligent university graduates with degrees that are not worth anything moving to London to get jobs that they think they are entitled to because they have a degree and can't earn as much as they think they are entitled to in other parts of the country. Because they aren't very bright they can't do research into why they can with their useless degrees get what appears to be a well paid job in London and they don't realise until they try to live there that their jobs don't pay enough to live in London. You can't force the government to build you a house so that you can move to an area that you can't afford to live in. Why should other tax payers who haven't moved to London pay for your lifestyle choices?
There is no shortage of property for sale in other parts of the country. For example Manchester is booming and there are commuter towns round it that are easily affordable. Moving to London from another part of the country to do an ordinary job is the first sign of stupidity. People in the 60s could make this assessment without the use of the internet so it should be easier now which just shows how stupid some people who move to London are.
When I was young children shared bedrooms. This was normal. Bunk beds were normal. In fact it is good for children to share bedrooms it helps them to learn how to get on with other people and in fact how to share. All this thing with each child having a separate bedroom leads to entitlement and selfishness which is what we are seeing more of.
Finally I wish people would stop implying that all landlords have mortgages they need to pay off. Many landlords do not have mortgages. On the other hand many supermarkets pay rent so everytime you shop in one you are paying for the rent on the building.
What London is short of is supported housing and housing for people with disabilities. Anyone who is fit and healthy can make their own choices. Tax payers should not be expected to fund other people's lifestyle choices of living where they want to.
Years ago people used to get somewhere to live before having children. This changed in the 80s. At that time anyone with a baby would get a council flat. What some people haven't realised is that because of Right to Buy those days are long gone.
The French demonstrations are about tax on fuel. Unemployment etc. I even saw a Frexit sign on one photo in the news.0 -
What do you mean 'freedom fighters'? The gilets jaunes were initially protesting about an increase in fuel taxes, which has now morphed into a general moan about higher living costs and Monsieur Macron's economic policies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46424267#
I've only come across one example of someone seeking to 'change the narrative', and that's err, you.
The mainstream media tried to change the narrative.
The freedom fighters said right from the start it's NOT about the fuel tax like the news is reporting.
It's about the banks it's about the living standards, it's about the housing crisis.
It's about the people rising up and demanding more.
No more bank bailouts, no more being shafted by our governments.
The people can take back the power.
The governments work for us.Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future0 -
I suspect you might find that if every landlord disappeared overnight the UK's housing stock would remain unaltered.
The number of properties would remain unchanged but if there are no landlords then that's of no help to the majority of the 4 million renters who cannot afford or do not want to buy a property. This just proves how ridiculous your statement that "landlords do nothing" was.Banks serve a purpose,
Glad to hear it, so we agree that your statement that "banks do nothing" was also ludicrous...Every generation blames the one before...
Mike + The Mechanics - The Living Years0 -
The mainstream media tried to change the narrative.The freedom fighters said right from the start it's NOT about the fuel tax like the news is reporting.
The only one changing the narrative is you. The fuel tax is categorically the spark that set all this off when rural residents started protesting about rising fuel prices.It's about the banks it's about the living standards, it's about the housing crisis.
You mean the banks that are offering some of the lowest interest rate loans in history?
The living standards that are amongst the highest they've ever been?
And as for the "housing crisis"... I'll ask again as you didn't answer earlier in this thread, what exactly is the nature of this housing crisis which you seem to suggest is the root of all evil?The governments work for us.
The government work for all of us, not just the younger generation who seem to want all the benefits and nice things their parents have but don't want to have to put in the hard work, stress, sacrifices and compromises their parents did to get to where they are today.Every generation blames the one before...
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