Yellow jacket freedom fighters spreading to London

AG47

The yellow jacket freedom fighters movement is spreading around Europe.

Could we have another 2011 all over again?

Boris water cannon tanks hve been dismantled they thought they would not need them again:rotfl:

The majority are unhappy about high rents and property prices, the people could demand the government a million affordable homes to be added to the supply every year from now on.

Whichever party offers to sort out the housing crisis will get the most votes

How to make your own tear gasmask

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Arklight

Tommy Robinson and his Brexit marchers are planning to hijack the identity for their Brexit Betrayal march tomorrow.

Given that the protests in Paris have turned very violent already hopefully the police will kettle the lot of them until around Tuesday tea time before they turn the first corner.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/brexit-betrayal-rally-tommy-robinson-and-ukipbacked-protest-to-see-thousands-descend-on-central-a4011636.html

AG47

The yellow vest movement is spreading to many other places and the media is trying to cover it up and downplay it, or change the narrative.

In the UK the majority of people are unhappy with high rents and property prices. The greedy landlords and property portfolio mega rich are the minority. It's the majority of the people who have the power to raise up and this yellow vest movement is the perfect way of doing it.

Everybody knows the government manipulates all markets, and they are doin it with property here in the uk. Fiddling with all aspects to keep supply low and prices going up. The people are at breaking point, the housing crisis is the worst it has ever been here in London. I'm working Monday to Wed/Thurs just to pay of my landlords mortgage. I'm not alone in my feelings of injustice and extreme unfairness.

There are programs on tv here all the time showing how many people are struggling to pay their rents and how the property market is broken. Can't pay/take it away shows people being evicted all the time.

Instead of bailing out the banks why not build a million affordable homes every year, whichever political party promised that would get the most votes, this is what the people are demanding.

Anyway there are growing stories of a repeat performance of the 2011 London riots, this time wearing yellow vests and Guy fawlks masks. Or teargas homemade gas masks:)

In 2011 the UK government brought in huge anti riot water cannon tanks, but they have recently been dismantled. That was foolish of them, thinking it wouldn't happen again.

The point is there is a limit how much the people will take, when the people are at breaking point they will raise up together.

MobileSaver

AG47 wrote: »

Whichever party offers to sort out the housing crisis

What exactly is the nature of this "housing crisis" that you speak of?

Twenty-something FTBs can't afford their daily lattes, a year off to travel around Australia, a brand new car on PCP and still have enough money to afford a semi-detached in Central London?

MobileSaver

AG47 wrote: »

the housing crisis is the worst it has ever been here in London. I'm working Monday to Wed/Thurs just to pay of my landlords mortgage.

A bit radical I know but how about moving to somewhere cheaper or improving yourself to get a better paying job?

AG47

MobileSaver wrote: »

A bit radical I know but how about moving to somewhere cheaper or improving yourself to get a better paying job?

Attitudes like this just put fuel on the fire.

MobileSaver

AG47 wrote: »

Attitudes like this just put fuel on the fire.

You mean the attitude that everyone (with the exception of the genuinely sick and disabled) should take responsibility for their own actions and inactions?

You seem to want the State (i.e. the taxes that I pay) to build an affordable home for you so that you don't have to compromise your living standards or put any effort into bettering yourself...

lisyloo

MobileSaver wrote: »

A bit radical I know but how about moving to somewhere cheaper or improving yourself to get a better paying job?

assuming it’s easy for everyone to

A) find a job elsewhere if they have no skills
find a job elsewhere if they are highly skilled and hence at the thinner end of the pyramid
C) leave their families when they may have elderly parents, grandchildren etc. Not to mention children.
D) improve themselves
E) get a better paying job

Overlooks quite a lot of obstacles

I don’t disagree with people improving themselves but it’s not easy for everyone.
For example to say a weekend dad or grandparent should just upsticks and leave their kids/grandkids.

We’ve had elderly parents who became completely incapable.
We’ve had to deal with social services, hospitals, care homes, doctors, funeral directors, carers etc.
We did move for work (and travel back at weekends) and it has put a massive amount of presssure on a sibling. I mean heart attach or nervous breakdown Inducing levels of stress

Btw - I currently work weekends, evenings, bank hols etc. And am constantly asked to work evenings.
I have found a better paying job, but if you are very busy whether with 1 job, multilple jobs, kids or elderly parents it can be quite hard to find the time to improve yourself or even have the time to do a cv and apply for jobs.

So agree but dont overlook how hard this is for some people.
Brushing it off as laziness if people have multiple jobs and kids is not fair.

I don’t think we are on the verge of revolt.
People are too busy just about managing.

itwasntme001

Housing in the UK is cheap with the exception of the SE/London where it is expensive but not crazily expensive. We have good living standards for the majority of people and probably the best we have had it ever in the UK.


Most millenials who are at least 2nd generation British, will have wealth given to them in the form of gifts and inheritances. They are already well off. Ironically it is many of these people who are in the leftist/momentum camp. It seems they have no idea how good they have it or they are crazy leftists with low IQ. Im willing to bet both, they seem to like to destroy their own wealth potential given they are in the middle class.


For London - if you really want to take drastic measure to make it a bit more affordable for more people - reduce imigration to only what is neccesary to meet job supply, rehouse council tenants living in zone 1/2 who do not add any value to the economy to cheaper parts of the country and build more private accomodation in those zone 1/2 areas.

MobileSaver

lisyloo wrote: »

I don’t disagree completely with people improving themselves but it’s not easy for everyone.

I think you've hit the nail on the head; there's a swathe of the population (predominantly the younger generation) who want and indeed expect everything to be easy. And if it's not easy then they just complain and expect someone else to sort it out for them because they're not prepared to put in the hard work themselves.

lisyloo wrote: »

So agree but dont overlook how hard this is for some people.
Brushing it off as laziness if people have multiple jobs and kids is not fair.

I disagree, life has NEVER been easy so it's perfectly fair to criticise people who aren't prepared to help themselves. My parents worked every hour there was and for most of my younger life there were five of us kids sharing one bedroom. Today's generation seem to think they can have children without all the hard work of making a relationship work and then expect the State to provide them as a single parent with a home with a separate bedroom for each child; the sense of entitlement with too many people today is very real.

For several years I had two jobs from age 18 onwards, I worked 18/19/20 hour days for well over a decade. My first house had no central heating, no double glazing, not even an oven or hob and to top it off we were paying interest rates around 4x what today's buyers are paying... did we complain? Nope we just got on with it and made the most of what we had.

itwasntme001 wrote: »

We have good living standards for the majority of people and probably the best we have had it ever in the UK.

It seems they have no idea how good they have it

+1

kabayiri

MobileSaver wrote: »

You mean the attitude that everyone (with the exception of the genuinely sick and disabled) should take responsibility for their own actions and inactions?
...

You could argue that the Yellow Jackets are taking responsibility for their own actions.

If you go out on the streets, you accept the risks that come with it.

It's not so much the type of protest which will worry authorities, but the scale. Something like 65,000 of the 90,000+ French police will be deployed to deal with these riots.

It really doesn't leave much left to deal with all the other crime which happens on a daily basis.