Exchange now or after brexit plan is finalised?

Crashy_Time

AdrianC wrote: »

Thank you for removing any doubt that you don't actually begin to understand the difference between the EU and Schengen.

Do you understand how a sovereign state has the power to decide which treaties it is part of?

Crashy_Time

Davesnave wrote: »

Something will be cobbled, as none of the people who matter wants Brexit.

They have a lot of cobbling to do, better get busy


https://www.ft.com/content/05bc5bce-fa4d-11e8-8b7c-6fa24bd5409c


https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-deutsche-bank-moneylaundering/prosecutors-eye-former-deutsche-bank-anti-money-laundering-official-report-idUKKBN1O91WD?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews


Soon people will be on the streets to demand Brexit IMO.

AdrianC

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Do you understand how a sovereign state has the power to decide which treaties it is part of?

Yes, I do, thanks. Every EU member gets to choose whether to ratify treaties or not. Which is exactly how and why the UK negotiated a permanent opt-out from the Schengen agreement in 1985, later re-confirmed as part of the Amsterdam treaty in 1999.

Which is why the UK isn't, and never was going to be, part of the borderless Schengen area. Which is why it's a complete and utter irrelevance, even before mentioning the four non-EU countries which are Schengen members. Or, indeed, the temporary internal borders within Schengen.

Oh, and that was all before the UK passed a law in 2011 which meant any future treaties had to go to referendum before they could be ratified.


Step away from the Daily Mail.

davidmcn

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Do you understand how the fact that "Leave" won means that many many people are comfortable with being checked out at passport control, AND want to feel that other people are being equally scrutinized?

Not sure what point you're extrapolating from the referendum result. Every time I've entered the UK (or entered another country from the UK) I've gone through passport control.

AdrianC

davidmcn wrote: »

Not sure what point you're extrapolating from the referendum result. Every time I've entered the UK (or entered another country from the UK) I've gone through passport control.

You don't think Crashy actually has any personal experience of travelling outside the country, do you...?

Red-Squirrel_2

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Really? So before we got involved life just didn`t exist in the UK?

You can't unbake a cake Crashy, we're all mixed in together now.

Crashy_Time

AdrianC wrote: »

Yes, I do, thanks. Every EU member gets to choose whether to ratify treaties or not. Which is exactly how and why the UK negotiated a permanent opt-out from the Schengen agreement in 1985, later re-confirmed as part of the Amsterdam treaty in 1999.

Which is why the UK isn't, and never was going to be, part of the borderless Schengen area. Which is why it's a complete and utter irrelevance, even before mentioning the four non-EU countries which are Schengen members. Or, indeed, the temporary internal borders within Schengen.

Oh, and that was all before the UK passed a law in 2011 which meant any future treaties had to go to referendum before they could be ratified.


Step away from the Daily Mail.

So, to go back to your original point, that Brexit wasn`t "possible"? how does anything you are saying relate to Brexit not being "possible"?

Crashy_Time

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

You can't unbake a cake Crashy, we're all mixed in together now.

The "Cake" is un-baking as we speak, it really is, it was baked by elites for elites, I remember being in France just before they joined the euro, about three months before, some people were VERY unhappy, it was basically forced on them.

Red-Squirrel_2

Crashy_Time wrote: »

The "Cake" is un-baking as we speak

Well good luck trying to make an omelette out of the 'eggs' you get back.

davidmcn

Crashy_Time wrote: »

The "Cake" is un-baking as we speak, it really is, it was baked by elites for elites

Who are the non-elite saviours of the underclasses? Boris, Jacob and Nigel?