Ultra Low Emission Zone filter for car

slatepipe

hi - i have a 1997 Peugeot 306 that does not meet the incoming ULEZ standards for London. I've been looking around trying to find if filters are available to get it upgraded to meet the new standards so i can drive it in the city centre but have drawn a blank so far as the only filters i can find are for HGV's and coaches. I'd rather not buy a new car that meets the standards as this means that the 306 will have to be sold or probably scrapped, which seems like a waste, so if filters are available and it isnt cost prohibitive i'd rather pay for a conversion but my lack of success in finding any filters or places that do it is making me think that this isn't going to be an option, which would be a shame

can anyone give any advice please?
thanks

worried_jim

There is no such thing.

slatepipe

that explains my lack of success in finding any then. thanks

forgotmyname

Easily fixed with an LPG kit.

AdrianC

forgotmyname wrote: »

Easily fixed with an LPG kit.

You're assuming it's petrol, not diesel. But even then, LPG is not going to be exempt from the ULEZ.

A 1997 306 will probably be Euro 2 (the compulsory standard from 1997), perhaps one of the last Euro 1 (1992) emissions.
The ULEZ limit is Euro 4 (2005) for petrol, Euro 6 (2014) for diesel.

The line's been drawn there because of NOx - that's the point at which the limit was reduced to 0.08g/km. Euro 5 petrol then reduced it a bit further, to 0.06g/km.

There was no NOx limit at all before Euro 3 in 2000 - 0.15g/km for petrol, 0.5g/km for diesel.

It's much easier to retrofit emissions hardware to larger vehicles, simply because there's a lot more space for them. It's also going to be utterly cost-prohibitive to try and upgrade a <£1,000 car, especially given that a compliant replacement can be bought for around £1,000...

slatepipe

AdrianC wrote: »

You're assuming it's petrol, not diesel.

hi - thanks for your reply. yeah - it's a petrol car

forgotmyname

AdrianC wrote: »

You're assuming it's petrol, not diesel. But even then, LPG is not going to be exempt from the ULEZ.

Nope, you can LPG diesel also.

Unlike a petrol/LPG though you cannot run a diesel 100% on LPG, but you can add LPG to give a clean burn or to produce lots of power.

Costs though, yes a lot more than the cars worth and possibly more than buying a compliant car.

jk0

I believe there's still an option to pay £12 on top of congestion charge for non-complying cars. How many times a year are you visiting?

Gregi

I am a bit miffed as well as so many I speak with on this matter: why is the area so disproportionally unbalanced? The area covered by the north circular is so much bigger then that of the South circular, it’s as if there was an 'on the back of a napkin' decision based on the easiest space to monitor the traffic and not on where the most congestion is in places such as Croydon town centre. If you take say, Charing Cross as the centre of London (its thereabouts?) then the southern section should be covering Beckenham, Norbury, Wimbledon and/or as far as Richmond. I can see mass protests on this as so many poor, in fact, the poorest in London will be impacted and even if you wanted to buy a 14 year old car, the prices will now become inflated beyond the means of so many within the area covered. With so many families living from pay-check to pay-check, this may well be a bridge too far for some. On top of this, there has been no clear signal from Mayor Khan as to what help will be offered to most of us, who, in the past, were openly encouraged to buy diesels (mine is just 5 years old but so to be obsolete whilst literally, 500 metres down the road, my friend in his 1999 Mondeo will be ok, where is the clarity or openness on this very contentious issue?

AdrianC

Gregi wrote: »

I am a bit miffed as well as so many I speak with on this matter: why is the area so disproportionally unbalanced? The area covered by the north circular is so much bigger then that of the South circular, it’s as if there was an 'on the back of a napkin' decision based on the easiest space to monitor the traffic and not on where the most congestion is in places such as Croydon town centre. If you take say, Charing Cross as the centre of London (its thereabouts?) then the southern section should be covering Beckenham, Norbury, Wimbledon and/or as far as Richmond.

A chunk of Richmond is within the South Circular.
But that apart, are you arguing for a wider circle to be drawn in, or a smaller one?

London IS a geographically and demographically unbalanced city when you look at the river. That's a simple fact of life. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and the circulars make as much sense as any other line.

I can see mass protests on this as so many poor, in fact, the poorest in London will be impacted and even if you wanted to buy a 14 year old car, the prices will now become inflated beyond the means of so many within the area covered.

As a sweeping generalisation, if you live within the circulars, you do not NEED a car. It's that simple. Public transport is widely available, 24hrs a day. Or use a bicycle.
For those with serious mobility issues, there's dial-a-ride or motability.

On top of this, there has been no clear signal from Mayor Khan as to what help will be offered to most of us, who, in the past, were openly encouraged to buy diesels

Diesel was "encouraged" for perfectly sound CO2 reasons. The side-effect on that has been serious rises in NOx. The ULEZ is aimed at targetting NOx.

(mine is just 5 years old but so to be obsolete whilst literally, 500 metres down the road, my friend in his 1999 Mondeo will be ok, where is the clarity or openness on this very contentious issue?

I guess you're just inside the A406, he's just outside? Yes, there's always winners and losers on either side of the line. But it is now more than a decade since emission-based restrictions on road transport were first introduced to London - and nearly six years since the extension of emission-based restrictions to cars was first publicly raised.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/13/boris-johnson-sticky-pollution-failure

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/29/diesel-drivers-may-face-higher-costs-pollution-battle

sevenhills

worried_jim wrote: »

There is no such thing.

Fitting an approved filter to your exhaust could reduce your vehicle's emissions enough to meet the LEZ emissions standards.


https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/low-emission-zone/ways-to-meet-the-standards



Buying a filter will cost between £1,800 and £3,500 for most vans, minibuses and other specialist vehicles and between £3,500 and £7,000 for HGVs, buses and coaches